On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Andy Schroder <i...@andyschroder.com> wrote:
> Hello, > > A couple of motivations for a mailing list switch: > > 1. Sometimes the mailing list delays delivery for 10 minutes to > several days. > 2. There are usually lots of ads at the footer of the messages. Really > confuses new readers (for me at least), and seems like it really pollutes > such a historical dialog that may be referenced long into the future. How > would it be if the 10 Commandments, Magna Carta, Bill of Rights, The Sermon > on the Mount, or The Gettysburg Address had ads intertwined within them? > 3. Don't think HTML messages are allowed. > 4. Seems like digital signatures are always broken on messages because > the list server slightly modifies them (?), so my e-mail client doesn't > verify them all. > > Not only -- mail header rewrites cause all my emails to go into people's spam folders, if they were not directly listed in the To/CC headers... > > 1. > > > > Andy Schroder > > On 06/10/2015 02:36 PM, s7r wrote: > > The mail list is public, so it's not like the data on it is somehow > sensitive. Sourcefoge is fine, it has a nice web UI where you can browse > the message and sort/order them as you want, etc. > > Why would you want to move to a paid solution? And why would you want > users to have to pay per message? This is the worst idea ever from my > point of view. We want to encourage people to join the community, run > full nodes, ask questions, come with solutions, ideas for improvements > and so on. Everyone should read and write and contribute as much as > possible with ideas in debates. You never know who can have bright ideas > in some contexts. > > Bottom line is so far sourceforge handles the mail lists just fine. I > don't see a single advantage another mail list provider / system could > offer, except some headache and extra work for migration. The software > distribution via sourcefoge was cancelled for obvious reasons which I > fully understand and agree to, but it has nothing to do with the mail > lists. We have way more important things to brainstorm about. > > On 6/10/2015 7:46 PM, Andy Schroder wrote: > > Regarding changing the e-mail list provider. Is anyone interested in > sponsoring it? There are non-free options, but it may be difficult to > always ensure the fee is being paid to the provider. I think finding an > agreeable free solution may have been the issue before? I've also > thought of trying to make a pay per message or byte solution (and this > cost could be dynamic based upon the number of current mailing list > subscribers). This could solve the who pays problem (the sender pays), > as well as motivate people to be more concise and clear with their > messages, and at the same time limit spam. > > > > Any thoughts? > > Andy Schroder > > On 06/10/2015 05:35 AM, Wladimir J. van der Laan wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:25:12AM +0200, xor wrote: > > > http://www.howtogeek.com/218764/warning-don%E2%80%99t-download-software-from-sourceforge-if-you-can-help-it/ > > All our downloads (even old ones) have recently been deleted from > sourceforge, for this reason. They haven't been mentioned in Bitcon Core > release announcements for a long time. > > No opinion on the mailing list. Though I think it's less urgent. The issue of > moving the mailinglist has come up before a few times and people can't agree > where to move to. > > Wladimir > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing > listBitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > -- Jeff Garzik Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/
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