> > Brandon> try to compensate for that by being condescending to
 > > Brandon> people more stupid than me.

 >> your not as bright as you think you are.

ok, i guess i should jump in here.  I thought you were all smart enough 
that we didn't need a list-mom, but here we go.. a couple quick points:

1) This list is entirely made up of people that sach and i know to be 
smart, so could we please drop the whole i don't know you and you said 'X' 
so you must be dumb argument?  Unless it's said by sach or myself, don't 
consider it a sign of lack of intelligence.

2) a _lot_ of the people on the list have incredibly caustic senses of 
humor, so be prepared

     My guidelines for happy funtime

On Sarcasm:
I know you all have highly developed senses of sarcasm, so please try to 
use them when _reading_ as well as writing.  If someone says somthing that 
sounds totally obnoxious, try to think about what you might have meant if 
you had said it.

On flame-wars:
I really have no problem with personal attacks, caustic remarks, or general 
rude tones in email as long as they are in fun.  If you want to attack 
someone's opinion, please at least make it interesting reading for the rest 
of us or take it off the list.

On email-trimming
Another thing that i don't have a strongly held opinion on.  As a 
responsible member of the internet, i try to be concious of what other 
people will think of my emails, so i tend to trim any long posts to keep 
the emails small.  On the other hand if each email thread is only 1-2 lines 
long, i usually will reply the whole bit, to keep continuity.   In reality, 
i think erik is the only one that is of the opinion that you shouldn't trim 
big posts, and that's probably mostly due to the fact that he's lazy, and 
now has to save face in under the assault of brandon's rather brutal post.

A very useful tool for following a thread is the mail archive at 
www.mail-archive.com type in 'bits'

On posting in general
If you don't think a majority of the people on the list will find it worth 
taking time out of their days to read, don't post it.  (all you unemployed 
jokers have a big advantage there)

This list started as a sort of help! forum for system administrators.  It 
has since grown to be a general list of technically-oriented people who are 
friends of me, sach or erik.  The only way you got here was because we 
thought you would be interested in what everyone else has to say.  Try to 
keep your emails in one of 2 categories: informative or interesting.

So to summarize:
Ook ook language == appropriate

how do i turn an ldap server into a keyserver? == appropriate

brandon's post == borderline... I mean it's rude, but i figured most of you 
would have taken into account that i wouldn't have let him on the list if 
he was as big a dick as he sounds

Fuck YOU <eom> == possibly appropriate for the side of a brick,  but a 
pretty weak as a non-interactive comeback.

If you have trouble distinguishing between interesting/not interesting, ask 
jay, he wrote the guide.

thx for your time, the management
-Lkb


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