There would be technical and regulatory issues with what you are suggesting.

You can't use amateur frequencies for anything you want.  Not even with a 
license.  The amateur radio license is specifically prohibited from being 
used for commercial purposes.  If you only call and e-mail friends, never 
shop or bank on-line, I suppose this might work.  We have autopatches on 
repeaters that allow us to make phone calls from our cars or from portable 
radios we carry with us, but I can't really use that for work.  It is illegal 
for an amateur radio operator to charge for their services as such.

HF (low frequency) is VERY narrow bandwidth.  We do use it for teletype, and 
even e-mail, but checking e-mail at 300 baud is only good for text, (although 
it is pretty cool to have e-mail in the middle of the ocean for next to 
nothing).

If you were interested in setting up a community mesh network like you 
described, you can do something similar with amateur radio, but you would 
want to do things with UHF and microwave frequencies to get any useful 
bandwidth.  Interestingly enough, one of the 802.11b channels falls into the 
amateur band, where amateur is designated as the primary user.  That means 
that a licensed amateur can legally increase the output power of an 802.11b 
WiFi transceiver and do some REALLY cool things with it.  Using directional 
antennas, a community wireless network is possible.  The catch is what you 
use it for.  Games, OK.  Phone between other users, OK.  Phone to PSTN, sort 
of okay, as long as you adhere to the non-commercial clause.  TV is out of 
the question, except for amateur TV (which could be a lot of fun).  You 
couldn't transmit a commercial TV station, but you could launch your own TV 
station and transmit it over the amateur bands (anyone can receive it, 
licensed or not).  

Currently, I have a laptop installed in my car that shows me and all other 
amateur APRS users in the area on a map.  I can send text messages to any of 
these users, one of which is my wife on the computer at home.  I can also 
radio these same people.  Working through a repeater, I can talk to people on 
the other side of town, or the other side of the world (repeaters can be 
linked together using VoIP technology) from a portable radio that fits in my 
pocket.

There are things we can do with amateur radio that make ordinary tech geeks 
drool.  It's a very cool hobby, but it has to be exactly that.  You can't 
make money off of it.

Having said that, you can do many of the same things for commercial purposes.  
You just need to apply to Industry Canada for a license.  It's not hard, and 
it's not expensive.  We use two-way radio within our business, and have it 
connected to our IP phone system.  One day I will probably set up a mobile 
data system as well.

I think this is getting long, so please ask questions, or contact me off-list 
if you want to know more.

-Tim, VA3TSP



On Thursday 12 July 2007 22:35, Shidan wrote:
> Are there any experts in the wireless world here from the
> commercial/regulatory side?
> If so maybe you can help with my question. I have been told that if
> one gets certified as an advanced amateur radio operator you can use
> really low frequencies with fairly high power for pretty much anything
> you want. So what is to stop a group of certified  operators from
> offering wireless mesh services for free as a co-operative, with their
> obvious frequency and power benefits, and using this network for last
> mile delivery of various commercial services such as pstn, internet,
> tv, etc ?
>
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