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Quoting Jim Van Meggelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> But Nortel systems don't have bugs . . .
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Philip Mullis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: June 15, 2007 4:15 PM
> > To: Alex @ Kovasys Inc.
> > Cc: Jim Van Meggelen; Toronto Asterisk Business Group
> > Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an
> > advertising campaign?
> >
> > Vendor support What??? have you ever tried to get a bug fixed
> > on a Nortel system? its usually a 6 month to a 2 year process
> > vs asterisk which thousands of people are working on.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 15:57 -0400, Alex @ Kovasys Inc. wrote:
> > > Problem is that large institutions do not just need a PBX
> > system, but
> > > they need a unified messaging solution (which Asterisk is far
> away
> > > from -- in my humble opinion). As well as large company
> > requires this
> > > solution to be backed by large enough vendor who is not going to
> go
> > > out of business in a few months when something goes wrong because
> > > their business depends on it.
> > >
> > > my 2 cents
> > >
> > > Alex
> > > VoIPGizmos.ca
> > >
> > > On 6/15/07, Jim Van Meggelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > CCRA (FKA Revenue Canada) uses it. They are not fortune 500,
> but
> > > > they're a very large organization.
> > > > Sunlabs uses it.
> > > > Hundreds of educational institutions use it, from universities
> to
> > > > small school boards (this is where you are most likely to
> > find a good case study).
> > > >
> > > > It should be noted that Asterisk was not developed by
> > hobbyists. Not
> > > > even counting Digium, the folks that contribute code to
> > Asterisk are
> > > > doing it mostly for business reasons, not for fun. The fact
> that
> > > > there is a lot of love there is a bonus.
> > > >
> > > > Still, I agree that it'd be nice to have more street
> > cred, but this
> > > > is the same path that Linux had to follow. No CTO/CIO would
> touch
> > > > it, until one day they found out that they were ALL
> > running it. Then
> > > > all of a sudden they were telling each other how smart
> > they were for being visionary.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stephen Remillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: June 15, 2007 2:19 PM
> > > > > To: Toronto Asterisk Business Group
> > > > > Subject: Re: [biz] Does open source telephony need an
> > advertising
> > > > > campaign?
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem I have here is to find serious case studies or
> > > > > testimonials of big company names that successfully deployed
> > > > > Asterisk in a decent size production environment.
> > > > > The CEOs & CFOs (at least where I work) see the
> > OpenSource factor
> > > > > as a problem rather than an asset.  They are afraid of
> trusting
> > > > > something developed by hobbyists unless major companies (i.e
> > > > > fortune 500) trust it first.
> > > > >
> > > > > If someone here has links that can demonstrate some case
> > > > > studies/testimonials corresponding to the above, please
> > send them
> > > > > to me. Otherwise I'll be stuck with a Nortel BCM.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephen...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 12:02 -0400, Alex @ Kovasys Inc. wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >       Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > >       As with everything it takes time for a product to
> become
> > > > > recognized
> > > > >       between masses.
> > > > >
> > > > >       The way it is going right now, I think it will
> > evolve on its
> > > > > own.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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