Hi folks, I sent this reply shortly after Bruce's post but it got stuck in
the tubes somewhere and then bounced.  My apologies if some of you got it
already.

Hi Bruce,

About 75% of subscribers are on both the Biz and Discuss lists.  You've
probably hit your audience here but I wouldn't be opposed to posting one
message to Discuss inviting interested parties to get on the Biz list and
join in the discussion.

When you post, just ask that discussion happens in this list rather than in
Discuss.

Maybe a Blog article on the Taug.ca website would draw some attention to
your buying group.  I don't imagine you'd see an immediate effect but maybe
you'll pick up some folks over the next few months.  Another benefit would
be to help website visitors better understand the types of things that TAUG
is good for.

I think that the only requirement to write articles is a website account.
Account setup is a selve-server matter on the taug.ca website.  Simon
correct me if I'm wrong here.

Good luck with your project guys.  Let us know what you're able to work out.

Dave Donovan
Moderator
taug.ca


On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Bruce N <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> All right, we got five people now. Wondering if we can cross post this to
> user list too for more exposure? This is a group thing, shouldn't be any
> problem. Right Dave?
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
>
> Anyone else looking for co-location, shared, dedicated hosting?
> -Bruce________________________________
> > From: [email protected]
> > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:18:14 -0400
> > Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
> > To: [email protected]
> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
> [email protected]
> >
> > I would like to toss my hat in as well.
> >
> > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Bruce N> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Going through the posts I can see the following people interested:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please add your e-mail address to the list and then we can agree on terms
> or choices. Like to see this happening really quick. I think you should add
> your name even if you are looking for Dedicated hosting rather than
> co-location because we can even get aggregated co-lo + dedicated servers
> even if required.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Bruce
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:26:21 -0400
> >
> >> From: [email protected]
> >
> >> To: [email protected]
> >
> >> CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
> >
> >>
> >
> >> So is this a go or no go? I'd be interested in placing a box or two out
> >
> >> there if we can make something work.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Bruce N> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Thanks for the clarification Erik.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Hello Paul,
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> You may not get the best "shared" deal out there but it's much less
> >
> >>> headache than with a true co-op system anyways. Would you actually go
> out
> >
> >>> and sue the guy with only 1U server just because he bailed out? I guess
> you
> >
> >>> never filed in courts to know what the costs are to sue people for
> every
> >
> >>> single little thing out there. A co-op system like this would never
> have the
> >
> >>> money to come up with the paralegal fees even. So, you are not much
> more
> >
> >>> secured anyways with such a system; anyhow, by picking one person I
> meant
> >
> >>> just a rep to grab good prices like Erik said. For a co-op system once
> you
> >
> >>> calculate the administration cost, insurance cost for bail outs,
> etc...you
> >
> >>> are already loosing whatever you thought you might have saved in the
> first
> >
> >>> place. What I purposed was a separate contract btw the individual and
> co-lo
> >
> >>> provider for every single member so issues like what you mentioned
> never
> >
> >>> happen and still you get a better rate than going in individually.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> Again, just a thought.
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>> -Bruce
> >
> >>>
> >
> >>>> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:34:23 -0400
> >
> >>>> From: [email protected]
> >
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >
> >>>> CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
> >
> >>>> Subject: Re: [biz] Idea about Shared Co-Location
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>> On Wed, 6 May 2009, Erik Turk wrote:
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>>> I think the co-op is one method of providing the desired service.
> >
> >>> Another way is for us to
> >
> >>>>> say to existing providers - hey, we have 40 people who want this type
> >
> >>> of service - what
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>> Then you are just 40 individuals. With your own bandwidth constrains,
> >
> >>> without being
> >
> >>>> able to combine the traffic into a good deal with 95 percentile. If
> that
> >
> >>> was a good
> >
> >>>> option, we'd all already be hosting our 1U server.
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>>> can you do for us, and then each of us makes an individual decision
> >
> >>> whether or not to
> >
> >>>>> enter a business relationship with that provider. My understanding is
> >
> >>> that Bruce was
> >
> >>>>> mentioning the latter as an option.
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>> Neither of the 40 people would likely be able to get 24/7 access,
> since
> >
> >>> you're only a 1U
> >
> >>>> customer. No aggregate bandwidth to allow us to peak etc. etc.
> >
> >>>>
> >
> >>>> Paul
> >
> >>>>
> >
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