Hmmm Thanks for that info. Guess we are back to pennicillin and Sulfa.... Cecil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie Parrish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Atypical Pneumonia
Cecil and Susan, Although it's a great antibiotic, I wouldn't recommend using Baytril in your sheep. The use of Baytril (enrofloxacin), a fluoroquinolone antibiotic, is prohibited in food-producing animals. Although you may not be intending to eat your sheep, they are considered food animals, and as such, use of Baytril is prohibited. Here's what I pulled off the FDA website at http://www.fda.gov/cvm/CVM_Updates/noeluflq.htm Any veterinarian or drug supply outlet that sells you Baytril for use in your sheep is committing a big no-no! Stephanie REMINDER -- EXTRA-LABEL USE OF FLUOROQUINOLONES PROHIBITED FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine (CVM) would like to remind veterinarians that extra-label use of fluoroquinolone antibiotics in food-producing animals is prohibited. CVM has received some information indicating that fluoroquinolone antibiotics such as enrofloxacin are being prescribed for use in food-producing animals including lactating dairy cattle for which they are not approved. The prohibition against extra-label use of fluoroquinolones is based on a finding by CVM that the extra-label use of these antibiotics in food-producing animals presents a risk to the public health for the purposes of the Animal Medicinal Drug Use Clarification Act (AMDUCA) of 1994. These extra-label uses are capable of increasing the antibiotic resistance of the bacteria that can cause human illness and that are present in treated animals at the time of slaughter. Information about this prohibition was published in the May 22, 1997, Federal Register. AMDUCA amended the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act to allow licensed veterinarians to prescribe extra-label uses of approved animal drugs and human drugs in animals. Section 2(a)(4)(D) of the AMDUCA provides that the Agency may prohibit an extra-label drug use in animals if, after affording an opportunity for public comment, the Agency finds that such use presents a risk to the public health. The following drugs (both animal and human), families of drugs, and substances are prohibited for extra-label uses in all food-producing animals: • Chloramphenicol; • Clenbuterol; • Diethylstilbestrol (DES); • Dimetridazole; • Ipronidazole; • Other nitroimidazoles; • Furazolidone, Nitrofurazone, other nitrofurans; • Sulfonamide drugs in lactating dairy cattle (except approved use of • sulfadimethoxine, sulfabromomethazine, and sulfaethoxypyridazine); • Fluoroquinolones; and • Glycopeptides. Veterinarians who have questions about AMDUCA or the extra-label use of drugs may contact FDA/CVM Division of Compliance, 7519 Standish Place, HFV-230, Rockville, MD 20855, 301-827-1168. Issued by: FDA, Center for Veterinary Medicine, Office of Management and Communications, HFV-12 7519 Standish Place, Rockville, MD 20855 Telephone: (301) 827-3800 FAX: (301) 827-4065 Internet Web Site: http://www.fda.gov/cvm On Oct 18, 2005, at 6:39 AM, Cecil Bearden wrote: > If you can get a bottle of Baytril, I keep that around and when I have > symptoms I do not know which problem it might be, I use both > pennicillin and > Baytril. They respond almost immediately. > > cecil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:02 AM > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Atypical Pneumonia > > >> Thanks you again and I agree Biotin is a very good product! >> >> >> >> Susan Smith >> Sandoah Achers >> www.sandoahachers.com >> American Blackbelly Sheep >> Painted Desert Sheep >> Barbado Sheep >> Mouflon X >> Black Hawaiian Sheep >> Texas Dall >> Corsican >> <>< >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: "Cecil Bearden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Atypical Pneumonia >>> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:21:22 -0500 >>> >>> Stress is in how you look at it.... Orally it takes at least 3 >>> days to >>> really tell a difference. Injectable takes about 12 hours.. >>> Minerals are >>> good, but they are not a lot of good if they will not eat it... I >>> mix >>> molasses and other feed with my minerals. If I grain them for a >>> treat, it >>> is spiked with mineral. >>> I have seen a great improvement when using Biotin as a supplement. >>> It is >>> amazing.. It has improved an old mare I have also. Almost >>> miraculous!! >>> >>> Cecil Bearden >>> Piedmont, OK >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:03 AM >>> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Atypical Pneumonia >>> >>> >>>> Thank you Cecil, You have given me hope. The reason I have not >>>> gone >>>> with >>>> the shots of pennicillian is because I thought it may cause more >>>> stress >>> on >>>> these ewes. I watch them eat their grain with the meds in it and >>>> they >>>> seem >>>> to be eating it just fine. My thoughts were to try it this way for >>>> a >>> week >>>> and if I don't see some change then I would go to the shots on the >>> snotty >>>> nosed ones. They have lots of minerals available to them at all >>>> times >>> and >>>> lots of fresh water. At this point they are on good alfalfa/grass >>>> hay. >>>> Thanks again, Sue >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Susan Smith >>>> Sandoah Achers >>>> www.sandoahachers.com >>>> American Blackbelly Sheep >>>> Painted Desert Sheep >>>> Barbado Sheep >>>> Mouflon X >>>> Black Hawaiian Sheep >>>> Texas Dall >>>> Corsican >>>> <>< >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: "Cecil Bearden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Atypical Pneumonia >>>>> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:48:11 -0500 >>>>> >>>>> I don't think it will create any problems. I personally would just >>>>> give >>>>> them shots, to be sure they get medication and it is a lot quicker. >>> They >>>>> may not breed if on medication. Just a thought. I would use 4 cc >>>>> of >>> long >>>>> acting pennicillin subcutaneously and make sure they had enough >>>>> mineral >>>>> supplement. I think the grass this time of the year has very few >>> minerals >>>>> that are needed. >>>>> >>>>> Cecil Bearden >>>>> Piedmont OKla >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Susan Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 8:48 AM >>>>> Subject: [blackbelly] Atypical Pneumonia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I find that a small portion of my flock have Atypical Pneumonia. >>>>>> They >>>>> are >>>>>> being treated with antibiotics through their feed at present. >>>>>> This >>> was >>>>>> diagnosed yesterday. Only 3-4 of the ewes out of 60 are coughing, >>> two >>>>>> have >>>>>> slightly snotty noses. My question to you is, I had planned to >>> breed >>>>> my >>>>>> flock at the end of this month is this in your opinion still an ok >>>>>> thing >>>>>> to >>>>>> do? 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