WTF? Someone didn't eat their wheaties this morning...






On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:26:11 +0200
Bradley T Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > > So, boys and girls, this kind of pissed me off. If you don't want your
> > > code forked, change your fucking license. If you're jealous because
> > > openbox took your users, code some fucking features. And how about a
> > > little 'thank you' for all the fucking bugs that xor fixes and they
> > > make it into the changlog as '--shaleh'? Get a fucking life.
> >
> > OK, talking is seriously a little immature here. I never talked shit
> > about blackbox. I was fixing bugs in it right up till the 0.65
> > release. So don't be saying that I'm stealing all YOUR work. Your
> > window manager works half decent cuz of shit i was fixing every day.
> 
> So, apparently I need to watch my mouth...
> 
> > Hmm, borders for textures. Who's stealing who's ideas? I don't care
> > that you want to do that. I think we should make our styles match. But
> > that probably shows the difference between our approach and yours. I
> > predict your style extensions will be made deliberately so that
> > Openbox can't use them even tho it already has the same extension.
> 
> First off, for what it is worth, this border in textures code was something 
> posted to the blackbox feature request page at sourceforge: 
> 
>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=613119&group_id=40696&atid=428683
> 
> Second, this made lots of sense while I was working on the new menus that 
> will go into the new libbt that shaleh and I are working on.  Since I have 
> made each menu use only a single window, I decided to make my life a 
> little easier by drawing borders in the texture code, instead of doing it 
> all by hand in the exposeEvent handler (like i did in moving_target*).
> 
> Third, the style stuff may or may not change, I don't know.  As shaleh and 
> I work on things, we may decide to revise the look slightly (as I have 
> done with the menus).  If this means a few changes to the style syntax, 
> then so be it.
> 
> > > [23:16] (@nyz) last i looked, it was a hack of blackbox
> > > [23:16] (@nyz) his change logs say stuff like "reforked from the
> > > 0.65.0 release"
> >
> > Since when does having common code make it a HACK? Openbox has taken
> > hacks in blackbox and made them work properly. Sticky windows anyone?
> > Yes, it was reforked from 0.65. I put a lot of time into helping make
> > the 0.65 release stable etc etc, and I readded every feature Openbox
> > had already done, to the new 0.65 code base. Wow, obviously a complete
> > ugly hack then. Bullshit.
> 
> Well, I don't really have any defense to the things I said, so the only 
> thing I can do is apologize.  Next time, I will do my best to make 
> knowledgable and thought out comments.
> 
> > If you don't like someone using your _open sourced_ window manager to
> > make something they like better..why is it open source? Change your
> > license and stop complaining. Oh, most of the recent changes in CVS
> > are looking pretty damn close the code in Openbox 2. So this bitching
> > seems quite out of line.
> 
> I don't mind if people decide to change things.  What I do mind is spending 
> weeks preparing for a release after changing/revising/rewriting massive 
> amounts of code, and then once it's released someone just decides to scoop 
> it up and readd their changes.
> 
> Granted, the license allows it.  But, it doesn't mean that I have to like 
> it.  But just because I get a bit discouraged/disheartened by doesn't mean 
> I'm going to change the license, shutdown CVS and then start demanding 
> download fees.
> 
> > Perhaps we could all grow up a little here. Stop fighting over.. (what
> > are we fighting over again? I dont see a point to any of this.)
> 
> As I mentioned above, this started because of me being a bit annoyed over 
> some of the things that have been happening lately.  You recall that I 
> sent you mail this weekend regarding text on the openbox webpage, correct?  
> At first, it did piss me off a bit to see "Openbox was previously known as 
> Blackbox", but I didn't blow up and I sent you mail asking you to change 
> it.  You did, and I'm glad.
> 
> However, I was a bit quick to shoot off my mouth.  I do apologize about 
> that.
> 
> > Bye.
> > xOr
> 
> -- 
> Bradley T. Hughes - bhughes at trolltech.com
> Trolltech AS - Waldemar Thranes gt. 98 N-0175 Oslo, Norway
> 
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