On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:00:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> however, i can't get the slit to appear: it doesn't seem to be present.

How do you try to make it appear? It only appears when you load something
in it, therefore I'm guessing you haven't managed that just yet. You said
you were using a 0.65, right? Try getting a dockapp and running it. Try
wmcpuload, for example.

> this might be something done by Gentoo, whose developers were complaining
> that Blackbox was ancient, unmaintained & prone to multiple bugs
> (i've tried to educate them & they seem to have backed off for now).

Thay may have had some points in regard to 0.65, although I may argue with
at least some. No excuse with 0.70 as far as I am concerned.

> i can live without the slit, but might i suggest a new feature ?
> a config option to prohibit windows from covering margins around the
> screen, which would allow me to define a  35 pixel  margin down the left
> edge.

There's already a standard in EWMH, describing what is referred to as
"struts". It says that windows can reserve portions of the screen so as
other windows try not to cover them. This is what all the panel-like
applications (including the RoX bar, fbpanel, the Blackbox slit and
toolbar) do. This includes KDE and Gnome such applications. So give the
slit another try, it may get you what you want and then some bonus.

The slit is very important IMO. Too bad newer desktop environments ignore
the power of dockapps and abandon the good old docks in favour of
complicated panels with applets and whatnot. I once tried to get some
dockapps going using a KDE environment. It was very hard finding a
standalone slit-like application that would swallow dockapps, and the
outcome was quite unsatisfactory. As I said back then too, we take Blackbox
for granted and don't even realise what the poor users of other window
managers have to do to survive. :)

> in the course of my fine-tuning i've found several apparent bugs:
> (1) Blackbox crashes when in  ~/.blackboxrc  i make 
>   session.screen0.slit.onTop:     True
> it says it can't find an Aqui theme, but i'm using Almost-X ;

0.65, right? Even if it's a bug, it won't be fixed. I believe the
official stand for 0.65 is "all hands, abandon ship". Better intensify your
lobby for pushing 0.70 into Gentoo.

> (2) in Bbconf, 'Alt-key' doesn't work for key assignments;
> (3) 'apply' in Bbconf doesn't actually apply till Bbconf exits;

Is bbconf still around? Does anybody have any word from the author? It may
very well be an abandoned application by now. I may grow frustrated enough
one of these days to put together a graphical Blackbox configurator,
with the possible downside that it would be written in PHP-GTK.

> (4) when i start Bbpager from the desktop menu, it goes where i want it,
> ie the bottom left corner as defined in  ~/.bbtools/bbpager.bb ,
> but when i use 'restart' in the menu, the pager starts at top left.

Try using bbpager -w, see if it goes into the slit, and then configure the
slit to go wherever you want.

-- 
Ciprian Popovici

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