"Gregory J. Barlow" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Derek Cunningham wrote:
>
> > I personally think the fscking toolbar is the dumbest thing in the
> > world. IT doesn't do anything... you could AT LEAST give it similar
> > functionality to Windows 9x. I assume this is the type of functionality
> > that Julio would like as well... although the explanation is not
> > perfectly clear.
>
> I personally like the toolbar quite a bit just the way it is. It seems
> you don't like it at all. Hide it and get on with your life.
>
it is. :) and i have. :)
but it would be nice if it could switch windows, show all open windows,
or something.
> > Also... along the same lines... when you maximize something it doesn't
> > maximize under the toolbar, yet it DOES maximize under the slit. This is
> > lame. There should be an option such that when i maximize a window, both
> > the toolbar (if it were usefull :) and the slit were viewable, and they
> > aren't covering anything.
>
> Its not hard to patch, do it yourself. The present behavior and choices
> are quite sensical, imo.
>
they are sensical. everything in blackbox is sensical. it's just it'd be
nice to be able to maximize a window and still see all my monitors. I
was shown the code to do this... so i'm happy about that. :)
> > Well... i absolutely ADORE Blackbox... and refuse even to install other
> > wm's on my computer... but i think the maximization issue, and toolbar
> > usability issue could be addressed.
>
> It doesnt sound like you like it all that much, since you call key
> features dumb and lame.
I called one feature (the toolbar) lame, and commented on the behavior
of another feature. perhaps the toolbar is a key feature, sure i'll
agree with that... but the maximization of windows is hardly a key
feature... it's more of a standard feature. and how it operates with key
features like the slit, and the toolbar, is definately something that
could use some consideration. i think the slit is just as important as
the toolbar (for me, it's more important, but i'm speaking in a general
feature-sense right now) and there is no reason why it should be
maximized over, or be on top of a completely maximized window.
> Let me clue you in to something:
hmmm.
> Blackbox isn't a
> window manager written for the lowest common denominator.
I know this.
> You can't
> configure every little thing.
I know this as well. but alot of things that are related to how windows
maximize etc are configureable... when i say "toolbar.onTop: True",
that means that the toolbar is always viewable, why is the same
attention not given to the slit? it only seems like a common sense thing
to also make whether or not the slit gets buried configurable, or hell,
when the slit is set to be "onTop" then it should be treated the same as
the toolbar. the toolbar and the slit are very similar, in my opinion..
and they should be treated similarily.
> Why is that? Because _that_ is lame.
agreed. I understand the theory behind blackbox... and respect it... i
thought i would post my views, see what kind of response there is. the
whole toolbar thing, and making it similar to win9x, i admit is probably
featurebloat... so i can live without it... it's auto-hidden. :) but..
adjusting how windows maximize over a "key feature" such as the slit is
hardly feature bloat, it's simply a matter of considering how people use
the software. Sure, the way it is now, if you use it, then cool cuz the
windows maximize under it, but what if you need that 1/15th of your
maximized window? for example: to scroll? then maximization is
useless... and you end up maximizing, then resizing. now i don't know if
you use the slit at all... but that is NOT sensical.
> > PS: can we fix the reply-to: tag of the mailing list?!
>
> There isn't anything wrong with it because its not there.
>
*shrug*
DC
