>From: cthulhain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Blackbox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: How about those features?
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:47:24 -0500
>
>In the gothic chambers of the underworld on Fri 16 Feb 2001 at 07:03 -0500,
>Sigvard Lyth muttered darkly:
>
> > I saw earlier someone flashing some WM- code... Later it was comented on
> > in a positive way. Partly becuase it was 3D.
> >
> > I have been thinking about this for a long while, but have held the idea
> > back, in fear of the "feature-creep" bashers :) But now I feel it's time
> > to stand forward..
> >
> > The effect mentioned earlier, could be accomplised by putting a layer of
> > dark text beneath a layer of lighter text. The 3D-effect is stunning, as
> > seen i WM... Why do we not have this "optional" feature? It couldnt
> > possibly be a huge amount of code? (I'm no code...) And the cool-factor
>is
> > enormous... Why not?
> >
> > This could be use in menues, windowlabels, bbkeys, the toolbar, what
> > ever... :)
> >
> > I think it would be a neat effect...
> >
>
>this was discussed once. as i recall, the conclusion reached was that
>rendering the second layer of text required too much of a performance
>hit for it to be worthwhile. not to mention, shadowed "3d" text is
>completely useles, and has no practical value whatsoever. if you really
>have your heart set on it, you can always use enlightement. "but e is
>too slow!", you say. well, that's because it's full of eye-candy like 3d
>text. therefore, do not fear the feature-creep bashers: they are the
>ones who make blackbox, the window manager that you love.
Although I agree with you completely that shadowed 3d text shouldn't be
included with the wm; I feel that I should point out that blackbox isn't
devoid of features by a long shot. gradient title bars aren't much besides
eye-candy, and people could make do without many of the other features. (If
every feature-creepee was bashed down, we'd be using wmx or some such.)
This kind of thing is, of course, perfect to make a patch to include for
people who want it. (In my dream wm, I'd like a truly minimal wm with
patches so I could include exactly the features I wanted. Of course, that's
an administration nightmare :) Not my job, as I wouldn't want it anyway,
but hopefully someone who has the same itch and some coding experience will
do it. The more features the better, as long as it doesn't impinge on my
natural Right to Fast Programs.
Jared Minch
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