Just to throw my 2 cents into the mix,
gnome support was never done in the first place because I didn't agree with
the design of the "gnome wm hints." KDE 1.x's wm -> app protocol wasn't
perfect, but much easier to manage.
Recently, the NET WM Spec was finalized. So far, I've integrated it into KDE
2.x and into (what will be) Qt 3.0. Havoc Pennington of RedHat is working on
integrating it into GTK 2.0 (and GNOME hopefully soon, but very doubtful).
With the release of the NET WM Spec, I need to find some free time and update
blackbox to talk NETWM-speak. This means that blackbox could be a drop-in
replacement for KWin. Once GNOME gets going again, blackbox will work with
GNOME.
As far as "special" treatment of applications other than bbkeys, bbpager,
bbmail and friends - I don't see the point in it. If Nautilus requires
special behaviour from the window manager to work - that to me suggests that
Nautilus should be fixed.
On Tuesday 13 March 2001 15:16, Jonathan Gift wrote:
> Bill Beal wrote:
> > *
> > * And that should give you Gnome support, at least when 2.0
> > * comes out later this year.
>
> I'd heard some of this. But thanks for posting it up again.
>
> > Now IANA BB Developer, so I don't know whether these
> > statements regarding the WM spec still apply. But this is
> > pretty much the reason GNOME compliance is not there now, as
> > I understand it.
>
> I know this which is why I made reference to the "incorrect" Gnome in my
> initial post. My point being that I think Blackbox has to get onboard
> Gnome whether or not they clean up their act. Now if the powers that be
> want to wait, I can see their point, but I can also see that they're not
> holding their breath... which leaves us out in the cold. Sorry about the
> repetitive metaphors.
>
> I'm no expert, but my gut feeling is that things were one way with
> console, motif, Gnome and KDE until Sun and HP adopted Gnome/Eazel. I
> think now there's been a big shift. I mean, for Christ' sake, Sun is
> dropping Motif/CDE for Gnome. I think Blackbox should support Gnome and
> the just released Nautilus, and not as a third party hack, no matter how
> well done.
>
> Jonathan
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