I looked through my blackbox mboxes, and didn't see the thread, but I did see it in 
the ChangeLog.  I fthis now means that shaded windows are iconified, whouldn't it 
appear in the workspaces > Icons menu?  I often find myself shading a window that I'm 
working in, opening another term and then going back to my first term.  if the windows 
happen to be the same size (which my terms are) then i have to close the unshaded one, 
or alt + tab through everything on the workspace.

dan

* Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 05-Jun-2002 dan radom wrote:
> > i've noticed with alpha8 that new windows are placed over shaded windows. 
> > i'm using right to left and top to bottom window placement.  on an empty
> > workspace i open a new window.  it's placed in the correct position.  i shade
> > it and open another new window, and it's placed right on top of the shaded
> > one.  pervious releases would place the new window directly below the shaded
> > window.  is this intended?
> > 
> 
> yep, it was discussed on this list about a week ago and has been in cvs since.
> 
> The idea is according to the ICCCM and other standards a shaded window is in
> the "iconic" state.  Most window managers ignore icons.
> 
> >From my own experience and talking to users people like shaded windows but find
> they do not help much because new window placement considered them.  So they
> still wanted iconification.  The hope is that allowing people to shade a window
> and have it act like an icon and thus be ignored may reduce the desire for
> different icon access.
> 
> Again in my own use and experience this patch simple means that the new windows
> do not cascade (tile) as fast as they used to.

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