Le 8 sept. 2013 à 18:19, 1.61803 <[email protected]> a écrit :

> @philostein, lack of _real_ feedback from the devs or the community a.k.a. 
> the usual suspects was a no-go for me. 


Maybe I'm gonna feel a little rude, but I can't even begin to *understand* what 
you mean by "_real_ feedback", and "the usual suspects was a no-go for me". I'm 
gonna give you a bunch of feedback ;-).

You're asking questions in that thread about how cool it would be to have the 
user manual converted to a Wiki. I find that to be a wonderful idea, as it 
could decouple the *huge* amount of work it represents from (poor) @hmelman 
who's the only one with the master files. But, as was pointed out repeatedly, 
we *do* not want that to be useless — the Wiki has already disappeared once 
when blacktree.org disappeared, along with the complete forum and the bunch of 
people that were around, the only "face" I recognize from that time is Howard — 
so porting that guide and verifying the info (especially the missing one) means 
a huge investment from a bunch of us, you (hopefully) included.  Let's say that 
right now, I feel more-or-less status-quo-ed with having the Manual a PDF 
maintained by somebody else (Sorry Howard :-S).

And now, you jump out of nowhere with that weird sentence, and I don't get it, 
you've had a response from Patrick, Rob, Philostein, and now me. You've been 
read by pretty much the complete developer team (even those that are just 
lurking), and even though everyone said that converting the manual was a great 
idea, you were warned that unless you have *very* specific problems (I can 
write scripts that do all sorts of ugly things — I converted 3000 Word files to 
HTML to CSV using Ruby not too long ago — yeah ugly) you won't get much 
hand-holding. Personally, I never touched the Wiki — apart in doing some 
proofreading on the Plugin Development guide — and I can't even remember the 
password for qsapp.com. I absolutely miss time to work on QS*, like most of the 
others devs. I mean, if you want to help, and want to work on converting the 
Guide**, then GO FOR IT ;-). 

Sorry if I felt harsh, but that thing is kind of hard to hear (for me at least).

* Well that's not exactly right, I'm having fun on Letters, it's just that QS's 
code is old (dating back from 10.1/2, that's before there were iPhones !) and 
even though we do what we can to keep it working, it is a hard and daunting 
task because we have no safety net in the form of tests to protect us from our 
good ideas (like I would have wanted to have multiple arguments by action => a 
mess, cleanup the views and stuff part of QS => a mess).</rant>

** I'm not even sure what's Howard opinion on that one, though the part on 
Creative Commons let me think it's ok with that.

Peace,
Etienne Samson
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