Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 05/09/06 19:52 CST: > I've been waiting for LFS to get close to a -testing release so I can > start testing many of the BLFS packages in that environment. I > completed that in the last week and then started into xorg7 for the > first time.
I went 6.9.0. Why do the hard to get the same as the easy? Don't take this the wrong way, but at this point installing 7.0 is just plain dumb, or one is a glutton for punishment, or one is getting his scripts in order. But "getting his scripts in order" at this point is premature. It has been mentioned several times that Xorg will be changing the amount of packages required to install an X desktop. > First of all, I would like to complement DJ on his tremendous efforts in > getting xorg7 into the book. Ditto that sentiment. > The problem is especially acute for X. The user does not have graphics > yet and its hard to refer to the book while building unless the user > prints out the instructions or has another computer. Not true. I build Lynx before even leaving LFS Chapter 6 chroot. Works for me. At the console with Lynx and GPM installed it is the same as a graphics layout only you're stuck with 80x25 (unless you use framebuffer). You have multiple terminals, mouse driven cut-and-paste and full capability for multiuser use. > I'm not sure how to approach this. I've thought of a couple of ways: > > 1. Put the exact build scripts needed on each page. > 2. Put all the required instructions in the wiki. I note that the > Xorg7 pages don't have those links yet. 3. Advise to install Lynx and GPM. All these issues you describe evaporate. > Also, the position of the pages doesn't reflect the complete build order: Can't comment as I cannot see a good reason yet to use 7.0. > Of course, there are several places in BLFS that you have to jump around > a bit to get to the prereqs, but xorg7 is really one app. Exactly why I made a fuss about the jumping around to the config page. But your idea about not wanting to put multiple installation info on a dedicated page for just one package makes sense. I promptly shut up after you made that great comment. Then, today, I run into Xorg-7.0 with redundant stuff that is already in the 'community' configuration page. Tsk. Tsk. :-) > xterm is needed for the standard startx test before a window manager or > .xinitrc is set up and really should be a part of xorg7. Is it a part > of xorg6.9? It definitely is a part of xfree. It is part of 6.9 if you use the default configuration file created in the instructions. My belief is that the decision to put it away from the X instructions, is due to some in the livecd team, who say that Xterm is unnecessary. I, as much as anything that's ever been presented, disagree with this sentiment. To me, having Xterm in the "General Utilities" is so far from wrong that it isn't funny. > I'd like to open this up to general discussion. I'm sure I've sparked discussion, as well as dissension. -- Randy rmlscsi: [bogomips 1003.28] [GNU ld version 2.16.1] [gcc (GCC) 4.0.3] [GNU C Library stable release version 2.3.6] [Linux 2.6.14.3 i686] 20:03:00 up 45 days, 7:40, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.08, 0.09 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
