On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 06:25:38PM -0600, DJ Lucas wrote:
> 
> Gnome is historically a fuster cluck of dependencies and always winds up
> borked in some subtle way for me, so I have to go back to the beginning
> and do it a second time.  I could probably do the book update for that,
> but I'd rather let one of the more familiar editors handle that one and
> work on my swing server and get those lesser used packages done up
> right.  If somebody else doesn't take it, then I'll have a couple sets
> of logs to work from. ;-)

 I omit too much of gnome to claim any familiarity with it as a
whole (it's the later stuff like abiword and gnumeric which I use).
I do have libsoup and libtasn1 in my current build, but I'm not
immediately sure what part of gnome demanded them.  Also rarian, for
yelp.  I'll happily do abiword (with wv) and gnumeric, goffice after
gnome is updated.

 FWIW, evince is working well for me with gcc-4.3.2 on x86, so I can
also do that after the book moves to gnome-2.24.

 I can certainly get started on the toolkit and some of the libraries
in chapter 8...

 At a guess, that means pcre, libxml2, glib2, libIDL, libgsf,
libglade, aspell, ISO Codes, maybe libidn (I'm on 1.9).

 I can do libdrm-2.3.1 if you like [ I always think of it as "part
of X", but it's in chapter 8 ], or would you rather do it as part of
xorg ?

 Also dbus-glib bindings (and dbus itself), mowgli and mcs (ah! I
couldn't find those in the book when I looked at longindex the other
day! I think they both now have 'lib' names for current versions -
will need to raise tickets for them).

 And from chapter 9: libpng (with the "upstream hate this" patch for
firefox3), lcms, fontconfig (I need to look at the issue Randy
raised on the ticket), poppler (I can also do libexif , I think, and
fribidi, but they aren't exactly urgent).

 Oh, some of chapter 24 too: cairo, pango, atk, gtk+-2.  Again, Mesa
is something I think of as belonging with X.  I've confirmed the
source doesn't have to be kept around for xorg-server.  Are you
planning to do Mesa with xorg-7.4 ?

 I've got some more local testing to do before I finish
raising tickets, and I'll be grabbing dvd+rw-tools as a first step
because it doesn't impact on anything else.

 For all of these, I'll obviously assign myself the tickets before I
start to work on them, but if anyone doesn't like my plan, please
speak up now.

 Oh, and I might end up comenting out testsuites if they're
complicated to run!

 I guess I'll be starting on these desktop things on Thursday
(British time) unless anyone jumps in and objects.  This is the sort
of "will probably break other things" stuff which caused me to start
this thread.

> 
> KDE, I just don't mess with much...just enough to make K3B work (which I
> rarely use anyway and the 3.5.x versions will be fine for that AFAIK).
> 

 I've stopped building 3.5.  I'll *perhaps* suggest including *some*
of 4.1.3 as an alternative, but given Alexander's problems with it
there is no way it will be replacing 3.5 in the short term.  That
discussion can wait for another day.

> Multimedia packages, I use them in gnome and k3b...so I'll get them when
> I get them if somebody doesn't get there first (please).

 All I know about alsa (lib, utils) is on the ticket - it works for
me, but seems to need xmlto.  I think the following are still current:
audiofile, libao, libogg, libvorbis.  Libmad is still current, but I
haven't tried to build it on gcc-4.3.

 I can do esound, flac (patch), id3lib (patch), lame, libdvdcss,
SDL, mpg123, xine-lib, audacious (plugins now require neon, at least
at runtime, we have it as a link from subversion).  I'll be happy to
add libtheora, but I think fixing existing packages is probably more
urgent.

 For ffmpeg I'm using a random snapshot. I've noted what I had to
change for transcode becasue of that snapshot, but I'm not actually
using transcode at the moment so I don't feel confident about
updating it in the book, and I don't have strong feelings about the
ffmpeg version.

 I can probably do gstreamer, its plugins, totem (and its playlist
parser), but I think the current versions depend on gnome-2.24.

 Gnash isn't in the book at the moment, I'm thinking about proposing
it _after_ I've got a handle on why I built that can of worms called
boost : I thought boost was "needed" for gnash and kde4, but I'm
having doubts.

 I think firefox3 is marginally less important than the rest of
this.  My suggested changes are still out there, complete with  two
references to libpng in the mozconfig, but I've had to add a comment
to the ticket about fixing the plugins (for those who first build it
as xulrunner).

 I'll try to look at system-zlib in nss in xulrunner tomorrow.

 Some of the items I'm offering to do may suggest other items when I
look at the detail.  I've certainly got an interest in the gimp,
cups, gnu-ghostscript, gutenprint but I don't think they are a
priority.

ĸen
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