On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:35:40AM +0000, Ken Moffat wrote:
> 
>  For xcb, I was wondering about the xcb-util changes rather than
> Python.  I've just managed to connect to fedora - they're still on
> xcb-util-0.3.6 (and they usually stay close to the bleeding edge).
> 
>  PLD are on 0.3.8 with xcb-util-image-0.3.8 with a note in the -util
> specfile that various parts have been split and are 'specs pending'.
> Language like that makes me think the're either hard or unnecessary.
> 
>  At freedesktop.org I can see -keysyms and -renderutil : all 0.3.8
> variants were released near the end of April, I noticed a question
> from a packager in the xorg list archives which didn't seem to get
> any response.  Haven't looked at debian-unstable (sometimes *more*
> bleeding edge, and occasionally broken in use as a result). I'm
> wimping out and staying with 0.3.6 unless someone shines light on
> this.
> 
 In fact, I decided to take a look at debian - all the xcb-util*
variants look straightforward.  Then I looked at what uses them on
my last (full) desktop built with LFS-6.8. ... Nothing, although a
lot of htings use the libs provided by libxcb itself.  According
to the book, xcb-util is needed for xorg apps.  So, I double checked
those I build (and noted that that some optional deps, such as
xxf86misc, have already dropped out of my build).

 The only reference to xcb that I could find was in xdpyinfo, which
uses (lib)xcb and libX11 built against xcb.

 The following other apps don't use xcb-util, for any others YMMV
(order is my build order) : xbitmaps, iceauth, mkfontdir, setxkbmap,
xauth, xclock, xcursorgen, xdriinfo, xev, xgamma, xhost, xinit,
xkbcomp, xmodmap, xrdb, xrefresh, xsetroot, xset, xwd.

 More updates on other things after I've rebuilt firefox now that
gtk-engines is installed. I thought Wayne's comments were rather
restrained - the menus are hard to use without this, but the pop-ups
e.g. for what to do with a download, or for changing preferences,
have black text on a black background and clicking only toggles the
check box.

ĸen
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