Em 26-07-2013 10:54, Igor Živković escreveu: > On 07/26/2013 03:13 PM, akhiezer wrote: >>> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 15:39:55 -0500 >>> From: Bruce Dubbs <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] Vim 7.3.1314 >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Fernando de Oliveira >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> . >> . >>>> >>>> For my personal use, I learned to use vim because it was the default >>>> editor in LFS, and noticed that gvim is now my preferred, because it >>>> keeps the terminal free for other uses.
I have a script to install a package. It has the URL. I want to change for the next version. Open with vim, edit, save and close, download. With gvim, no need to close. And if a mistake is committed, correct and try again to download. This again, when building. Package built, close that gvim. And many other examples. I used to change to another tab to do it, but always disliked it, so found using gvim was much better. But this is personal way of doing things, I guess screen would allow that, geany has its own terminal, konsole is capable of having an editor, ISTR. >>> >>> Try using konsole. You don't need to run the KDE window manager. It runs >>> great in an xfce based system. The tabs allow you to move around without >>> another window. Sometimes I'll have 10 pr more bash instances running >>> at once, but only two instances of konsole. On my normal system I >>> usually have mail, browser, and two konsole instances running without >>> needing to overlap the windows. >> - yep, a 'me-too' for konsole from here; works jus'-fine in twm & xfce; >> easy >> to have it auto-open exactly how many windows, tabs-per-windows, >> startdir-per-tab, etc via its cmdline-opts and usual shell-alias/wm-config. >> Also never have problems with its resource consumption - e.g. 4 windows, 8 >> tabs >> per win, long-term, no probs at all. Konsole is good, I have tried it in a binary distribution. But for tab, lxterm, terminator or roxterm give them. I am not wishing to install konsole now, because I would need new 15 packages, all included, according to BLFS. That is interesting. I got roxterm to open with a number of tabs, no idea if other windows or individual startdirs would be possible. Now, I most use lxterm, and a casual term is terminator. At least once a day, I open an xterm in another workspace, just for cssh. >> Fernando, you might like also (if not already) to have a look at 'screen'. > > I would also recommend Screen. Once you learn it, you'll never need more > than one terminal window. I installed it yesterday and saw how many features it has. But it has still too many features to be learned. One thing I wanted to see was to debug a problem I have, but it did not help me. Another time, I will talk, eventually, about this problem. Also by akhiezer: > As for vim: I can recommend 'elvis' as a vi editor, for both functionality and > maintenance. (It's the default in Slackware: '/usr/bin/vi -> elvis', and vim > is standalone '/usr/bin/vim') . ((FWIW, I still like vim, but think it's a > little ... become a bit too convoluted.)) I went to see elvis. But I have to say that I like vim/gvim, only dislike the way it is maintained, displaying a *new version with x.y.z* in the site, but only providing an original version x.y tar ball that can be several years old and individual 1 to z patches. This is misleading, for that, LFS/BLFS is always behind, Fedora and Arch are sometimes years ahead of us, thousands of patches ahead. Thank you all. It took some time thinking about each point and it doing immediately or considering for later. -- []s, Fernando -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
