On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 08:24:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Ken Moffat wrote:
> >I've now got plasma apps working on my first machine, both from
> >within other desktop sessions (icewm, from sddm) AND using Plasma
> >from sddm.
> 
> I don't have time to do a detailed reply right now, but I have a question.
> How long does it take for the Plasma 5 desktop to come up for you?  When I
> tested (suing startx), it took a long time (about a minute iirc), vs a
> couple of seconds for xfce.
> 
I just logged out to sddm, then logged back in.  Using the second
hand of my watch, about 7 seconds (AMD Phenom, 7.5GB RAM).

The great thing about using a script is that you can change things,
e.g. so that everything is set correctly for plasma on a system
which also has all of kde4.  See also
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/systemd/kde5/plasma-workspace.html
(the wrapper).
> 
> Is the issue that sddm does not run /etc/profile?
> 

I've no idea, and for the next few days I've no time to look, nor to
test that.  My bash files originally came from Mandrake and have
grown over the years, but /etc/profile is not something I have ever
used.

> When I was testing startx, I had in ~/.xinitrc:
> 
> exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session /opt/kf5/bin/startkde
> 
Yes, mine was the same except I didn't need the prefix because there
is no other startkde on this system.

> I'm not sure if that was right or not.  Plasma5 started, but I didn't find
> it very usable.
> 

I am finding it less bad as I get used to it (and also I've tweaked
some of the settings e.g. I no longer get the stupid transparency
when moving or changing windows).

On my other machine, where I fear plasma will be unrecoverable, kdm
takes much the same sort of time to produce the desktop - that is on
a similar system build from June.  And I have never been overjoyed
by most kde4 apps - horse for courses.

ĸen
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