Ken Moffat wrote:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 08:24:58PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Ken Moffat wrote:
I've now got plasma apps working on my first machine, both from
within other desktop sessions (icewm, from sddm) AND using Plasma
>from sddm.

I don't have time to do a detailed reply right now, but I have a question.
How long does it take for the Plasma 5 desktop to come up for you?  When I
tested (suing startx), it took a long time (about a minute iirc), vs a
couple of seconds for xfce.

I just logged out to sddm, then logged back in.  Using the second
hand of my watch, about 7 seconds (AMD Phenom, 7.5GB RAM).

Good to know. I must have done something wrong when I tested. OTOH, xfce takes 1-2 seconds.

The great thing about using a script is that you can change things,
e.g. so that everything is set correctly for plasma on a system
which also has all of kde4.  See also
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/systemd/kde5/plasma-workspace.html
(the wrapper).

Is the issue that sddm does not run /etc/profile?


I've no idea, and for the next few days I've no time to look, nor to
test that.  My bash files originally came from Mandrake and have
grown over the years, but /etc/profile is not something I have ever
used.

No need for you to test. /etc/profile is run by default by bash for a login shell unless --noprofile is passed as an argument.


When I was testing startx, I had in ~/.xinitrc:

exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch --exit-with-session /opt/kf5/bin/startkde

Yes, mine was the same except I didn't need the prefix because there
is no other startkde on this system.

Seem reasonable.

I'm not sure if that was right or not.  Plasma5 started, but I didn't find
it very usable.


I am finding it less bad as I get used to it (and also I've tweaked
some of the settings e.g. I no longer get the stupid transparency
when moving or changing windows).

On my other machine, where I fear plasma will be unrecoverable, kdm
takes much the same sort of time to produce the desktop - that is on
a similar system build from June.  And I have never been overjoyed
by most kde4 apps - horse for courses.

I really like konsole. I especially like the way it uses tabs and how they can be customized. I find customization to be friendly too.

Other useful apps are kruler, k3b, ksnapshot, okular, and recently kdenlive. None of these requires plasma.

  -- Bruce


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