> From: Bruce Dubbs <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:24:58 -0600
> Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] drop modemmanager?
>
> akhiezer wrote:
> >>  From [email protected] Tue Dec 13 10:45:39 2016
> >> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 10:45:26 +0000
> >> From: [email protected] (akhiezer)
> >> To: BLFS Development List <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] drop modemmanager?
> >>
> >>> From: "Douglas R. Reno" <[email protected]>
> >>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:58 -0600
> >>> Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] drop modemmanager?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Bruce Dubbs <[email protected]> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Looking at http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/ticket/8569, I am
> >>>> wondering if we should drop modemmanager from BLFS.  I have no idea how 
> >>>> it
> >>>> should be used and I don't think any devs know how to test it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I looked at a couple of references on line and it apparently can be used
> >>>> for sending or receiving cell phone text messages.
> >>>>
> >>>> In any case, if we keep in in the sysV book, we appear to need a boot
> >>>> script.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone have more insight into this package?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Go ahead and drop it from sysv.
> >>>
> >>> It is *required* for GNOME on systemd. I also have some experience with
> >>> this package as it is required for tethering a cell phone on the CDMA
> >>> network to a computer for data purposes. I do it all the time when I'm in 
> >>> a
> >>> remote area.
> >>>
> >>> The simple answer is: It's not usable on sysv. It requires systemd to 
> >>> spawn
> >>> the D-Bus service. That is one drawback to sysv IMO, I can't use my PC in 
> >>> a
> >>> remote area without being able to spawn that service. Again, why I use
> >>> systemd.
> >>
> >>
> >> ( - sounds like propaganda/fud/bllcks/'a-little-knowledge-...'  .)
>
> We were acknowledging ignorance, not in building MM, but in 
> configuring/testing.
>


It is at least reasonably obvious that it is the immediately-preceding
para that was being addressed; and the other materials retained for
overall context for the overall note.


>
> >> Slackware uses modemmanager no-probs:
> >> ----
> >> http://slackware.uk/slackware/slackware64-current/source/n/ModemManager/
> >>   [TAR] ModemManager-1.4.14.tar.xz               16-Mar-2016 12:01  1.4M
> >>   [SPT] ModemManager.SlackBuild                  20-Dec-2015 06:04  3.1K
> >>   [CMP] WeDoNotHaveSystemD.patch.gz              22-Sep-2013 22:10  444
> >>   [TXT] slack-desc                               31-Mar-2016 21:46  832
> >> --
> >> http://slackware.uk/slackware/slackware64-current/source/n/NetworkManager/
> >>   [   ] 55NetworkManager                         22-Mar-2016 18:59  938
> >>   [TAR] NetworkManager-1.2.2.tar.xz              11-May-2016 13:03  3.6M
> >>   [SPT] NetworkManager.SlackBuild                13-Jun-2016 04:25  5.8K
> >>   [TXT] NetworkManager.conf                      22-Apr-2016 04:58  139
> >>   [DIR] conf.d/                                  25-Mar-2016 04:54    -
> >>   [SPT] doinst.sh                                25-Mar-2016 04:35  1.2K
> >>   [TXT] rc.networkmanager                        25-Mar-2016 22:57  2.6K
> >>   [TXT] slack-desc                               08-Oct-2013 05:28  1.0K
> >> ----
> >>
>
> This is useful/helpful.
>
> >> (NB though that 'apparently' b/lfs dev(s) opine(s) that it must be
> >> unusable on Slackware.)
>
> Why the personal slights?  I would be much more appreciative of the help 
> without them.


Ditto.


>
> I have heard the saying before:  All of us are a lot more knowledgeable 
> than any one of us.
>


And again.



hth,
akh





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