On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:44 PM Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev < [email protected]> wrote:
> Over the years, BLFS has grown a lot. There are over 1000 individual > tarballs listed in the book. This creates a large maintenance burden. > It is a rare week when we have less than 30 new packages that need to be > updated. > > The most time intensive process is preparing for our semi-annual > release. This is a two week process that provides quality control to > ensure all packages build with current libraries and support programs. > If packages are not kept up to date at other times, the time for the > release process will grow significantly. In addition, during the time > of release processing, new packages continue to be released. > > To try to alleviate this problem, I am proposing that we remove some > packages from LFS. The list below is my initial proposal of packages > that are less frequently needed by users and are not worth maintaining > by BLFS. These packages are user level programs and do not include > libraries. Removal of libraries that are only used by these packages > will follow. > > If I do not hear of any objections, I intend to start removing these > packages around October 1st. > > I'm also open to nominations for removal of other packages. > > -- Bruce > > btrfs-progs-4.17.1 > jfsutils-1.1.15 > ntfs-3g-2017.3.23 > Just pointing out here that this one has an update once a year. I'm sure you can obtain a device with an NTFS partition to test this, otherwise I can take care of it. > reiserfsprogs-3.6.27 > xfsprogs-4.18.0 > ^ xfsprogs is an optional dependency for Samba - just noting. > JOE-4.6 > Kate-18.08.0 > Mousepad-0.4.1 > zsh-5.6 > Compface-1.5.2 > MC-4.8.21 Sysstat-11.6.5 > ^ Any suggested alternative? I already use HTOP, but I'm trying to speak for the crowd here. > GCC-Ada-8.2.0 > Guile-2.2.4 > ^ You're removing a library that is essential for GDB > Apache-Maven-3.5.4 > NcFTP-3.2.6 > ^ Any particular reason? I cannot think of another FTP browser with a browser in the book. As someone who does a lot of stuff over FTP for submitting school assignments, I live off of this. > Lynx-2.8.9rel.1 or W3m-0.5.3 > Alpine-2.21 > ^ I'm torn on this one. I've always been able to use Alpine, but I've never once gotten Mutt to work properly. > ProFTPD-1.3.6 > sendmail-8.15.2 > ^ Why don't we just remove Exim too then? Let's force everyone to use Postfix. > OpenLDAP-2.4.46 > ^ Required for essential Samba functionality > IceWM-1.4.2 > AbiWord-3.0.2 > Gnumeric-1.12.43 > ^ I suggest removing Libreoffice instead. It's a hog, and I can't honestly see anyone spending 45+ SBU building a package that downloads its own internal versions anyway. I'm also quite partial to Abiword and Gnumeric though, this is just my (biased) opinion. I've never seen it work right once. > Balsa-2.5.6 > ^ And force everyone to use Thunderbird instead? At least in my case, Thunderbird is highly unstable for a mailbox with over 13,000 messages saved. Balsa and Evolution are the only two clients that have ever worked properly. Sure, I maintain GNOME - but I'd rather not have to put Evolution on my workstation whenever my new one that I ordered comes in. > feh-2.27.1 > FontForge-20170731 > Pidgin-2.13.0 > Transmission-2.94 > ^ Why are we going to remove this? We have no replacement for a P2P client. Pidgin is understandable (from a maintenance point of view - I'm still going to end up installing it anyway because I have to use it to communicate with my college's Jabber system). > xarchiver-0.5.4 > ^ This one is relatively low maintenance, but if you want to remove it, go ahead. I'll just move my workstation to Plasma instead of XFCE, as I'd prefer to stay away from File-Roller if I can. > Transcode-1.1.7 > Audacious-3.10 > ^ Any particular reason why? This is a nice package to have around for us audiophiles. > Enscript-1.6.6 > MuPDF-1.13.0 > ^ What do you suggest to replace it? I doubt everyone wants to use Evince or Okular (and Okular has another downdraw - it uses JS in PDF files, increasing vulnerability surface [and there is still one we haven't even bothered trying to fix!]). In addition, this is used in cups-filters. > paps-0.6.8 > -- > http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev > FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html > Unsubscribe: See the above information page >
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