Stefano Lampis wrote:
Peter B. Steiger wrote:
On Sun, 2006-05-28 at 20:33 +0200, Stefano Lampis wrote:
(after Dan sez)
I was really surprised to see it wasn't in the book. I'm gonna put
on
my editor's hat for a few hours tonight, so if I beat you to it...
Probably the reason is that lfs users should be experienced users,
without the need of someone that configures dri for them.
As prone as I am to being equally condescending most days, I'm gonna
have to disagree with you there. Do you suppose we should also dispense
with the examples of how to run ./configure && make && make install,
because everybody should already know that before they touch lfs?
<rant>
The first time I built lfs a hundred years ago, I didn't know C++ from
FORTRAN and had only been using Linux (from a Red Hat CD) for six
months. I didn't know about configure, makefiles, directory
conventions, or how to partition my drive. That's the beauty of lfs - a
total clueless idiot like me was able to build a solid Linux system
complete with Samba file shares for my wife and kids to access from
their Winduhs systems, a sturdy firewall, and replacements for all my
Winduhs applications... over the course of a few weekends with no
additional help or information beyond what was in the lfs book. You
don't need to know anything! The book explains in sufficient detail for
the experts and sufficient simplicity for the novices where to get the
source files, how to load them into your source tree, how to configure,
build and install them, and any post-installation tweaking that is
needed to make the system perfectly usable. The lfs documentation,
particularly with regards to cradle-to-grave X Windows builds, is more
thorough and comprehensible then a hundred wiki pages scattered from one
end of cyberspace to the other. After five complete lfs/blfs builds on
various systems over as many years, this information on making sure
non-root users are able to run the DRI module is the one thing I have
ever found lacking.
</rant>
I didn't mean there's no need of the DRI hint in lfs book.
I meant that often LFS users are experienced users that added to
xorg.conf those lines a lot of times, so they didn't notice the missing
of that hint, just because they didn't need that.
This is what I meant, I just tried to give a reason.
I agree with putting this hint in the book, just as you do guys.
That was what I meant when I said 'just known'. I knew about it, and it
never really crossed my mind when I went through the instructions.
Sorry if it sounded like a mean poke at fun or otherwise.
-- DJ Lucas
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