On Dec 03, 2018, at 01:41 PM, Pierre Labastie via blfs-support <[email protected]> wrote: On 03/12/2018 20:20, Hans Malissa via blfs-support wrote: On Dec 03, 2018, at 01:41 AM, Pierre Labastie via blfs-support <[email protected]> wrote: On 03/12/2018 06:30, Hans Malissa via blfs-support wrote: On Dec 02, 2018, at 10:26 PM, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-support <[email protected]> wrote: On 12/02/2018 10:40 PM, Hans Malissa via blfs-support wrote: Hi,
I'm in section "Xorg-7 Testing and Configuration" in BLFS 8.3-systemd. Xorg seems to work, and when I issue startx I get the Xorg desktop with 3 xterm windows and 1 xclock window. However, the windows have no frames, and cannot be moved or resized. I remember twm differently, and I'm wondering if it's supposed to be like this, or if something is wrong with twm? Is this the default behavior, just windows that have no frames, and cannot be moved or resized? Thanks a lot, You should be able to grab the header and move the windows. Resizing is different. Click and hold in the upper right corner with the left mouse button and move the mouse out of the window. An outline should appear. When you release the mouse button, the window should resize. Click in the background to get a menu. -- Bruce The windows have no header. The way you describe it is what I remember from twm, but my windows have no headers and no outlines. That's why I'm wondering whether twm is working alright. Hans That happened once to me because I had built xorg-server before installing the font utilities. Because of that, Xorg couldn't find fonts that twm was requesting, and twm could not start. I think you can still exit X, though, by moving the mouse to the upper left window and typing Ctrl-D. Then you can examine the terminal where you launched "startx" for any errors (note that there may be a lot of warnings about fonts not found, if you have not installed the legacy fonts, so that this part is useless). If my hypothesis is correct, it should say something about helvetica fonts, as far as I remember. Also look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to try to see what went wrong. If the fonts are not found, install them, and rebuild xorg-server. If anything else, well, I guess we need more details... Pierre Thanks for the information. Yes, I can switch the active window by hovering the mousepointer over it. I'm pasting my /var/log/Xorg.0.log below. I see some error messages regarding fonts, but I guess that's related to the legacy fonts, nothing concrete about helvetica fonts. So which section did I miss? I've been following chapter 24 as closely as possible, but I can't exclude the possibility that I missed something or that something went wrong. Thanks a lot, The log seems OK. The font directories seem to be found. What you can try is to issue "twm &" at the prompt in the window which is above the others. I mean: - First start Xorg with "startx" - You'll get the four windows (3 xterm's and 1 xclock). Hoover the mouse other the window which is above the others (hopefully it is one of the xterm windows). Then type "twm &". You'll get a lot of warnings, but maybe there will be an error message or something telling why twm does not start (or aborts). Ah, now I'm getting something: when I try to launch twm as you describe, I get one font-related error message: twm: unable to open fontset "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*" I guess it's really that some fonts are missing. I still wonder where I went wrong: in which section did we install this font? Thanks a lot, Hans
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