> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 3:19 AM
> From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 
> <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
>
> On 1/14/2020 9:07 PM, Christopher Gregory via blfs-support wrote:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:46 PM
> > From: "Christopher Gregory via blfs-support" 
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: "Christopher Gregory" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> >
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:18 PM
> > From: "Alan Feuerbacher via blfs-support" 
> > <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Cc: "Alan Feuerbacher" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [blfs-support] Some Helpful Hints ?
> >
> > Now that I've got my shiny new LFS system up and running, and I've
> > installed a pile of BLFS software in chroot, but don't have X running,
> > I'd like some hints on streamlining the process of installing software
> > via Lynx.
> >
> > Unfortunately, my hard drive that contained a lot of helpful hints from
> > when I last played with LFS 2 1/2 years ago went belly up a couple of
> > years ago, and I've forgotten many of the hints that were on that drive.
> > Here's what I remember:
> >
> > In the Linux console I believe there is a way to switch between two or
> > more independent windows, so that you can have a program running in
> > each. This facilitates, say, looking at the BLFS book in Lynx in one
> > window, and installing the software in another. How do you switch windows?
> >
> > I know that on startup Linux records some log files, including what is
> > output to the console. Where can I find them?
> >
> > A couple of days ago Bruce Dubbs gave me a link to some hints on
> > transitioning from LFS to BLSF. Good stuff!
> >
> > Any other helpful hints?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > The process of automating the install process is a little tricky.  You need 
> > to be very familiar with the Linux operating system, and most importantly 
> > Bash, as you need a knowledge of scripting to be able to overcome the 
> > circular dependencies of some of the packages in BLFS.
> How would that work? I've fought with the circular dependencies a lot.
> > You could use Jhalf, you can install it on an already installed LFS system. 
> >  Using this approach, you will be able to select what you wish to be 
> > installed, from an adapted busy box menu.
>
> I've briefly read about jhalfs, but I thought it only installed LFS
> stuff, not BLFS.
>
> Would this be run from a pre-X window? I don't yet have X installed.
>
> > Once you have run the menu selection process, it will create a "cut down" 
> > version of the book in a linear format.
> You mean that jhalfs runs in its own interactive window?
> >    The easiest approach then, if you are not familiar with bash, would be 
> > to use that version of the book, and switch between the different tty's as 
> > I explained.
> I'm fairly familiar with bash as a casual user, but am far from an
> expert. Of course, one purpose of LFS is to teach stuff like this to
> newbies like me.
> > You will need to make sure that you have GPM installed so that you can use 
> > your mouse to copy and paste between the different windows.
>
> Up and running.
>
>
> > If you are using the systemd version, then you use:
>
> > journalctl -r to get a list of the log files in reverse order.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Alan
>
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Hello,

You can install the BLFS tools, which is part of JHALF on an already installed 
lfs system.  I recommend doing that, and only running it to the point of 
getting the "cut down" linear version of the BLFS book, rather than allowing it 
to attempt a full install of what you wish to have installed.

That way you do not have to dive into the many bash scripts that get created.  
I have never used JHALF for doing a full BLFS install, as I hate programming 
and it gives me a headache even going through the scripts.

JHALF does not run in a separate window per say.  It uses a "Make" file and it 
brings up a menu selection, much like you get when you install the linux kernel.

The beauty of it is, if you do use jhalf to create the linear version of the 
book, you do not have to worry about a dependency not being installed, as you 
can guarantee that if you follow that book through package by package that you 
will get a successful build.  You are basically building BLFS by hand, but with 
the linear approach you can stop, and as long as you make a note of where you 
are up to in your installation you can continue on from where you left off.

You are also able to build the packages from a tty in a native LFS environment. 
 You just need to make sure that you have your network card set up, preferably 
via an ethernet cable, as there is a lot less number of packages to install 
than by using a wifi card.  You are probably using DHCP, so you will need to 
make sure that you have that package installed and have internet access.  Also 
make sure that you have wget installed as well so that you will be able to 
download the packages from the internet.

My apologies to others who have also contributed to this thread, but as I am 
answering the questions that were raised by my response, it is easier for me to 
answer directly.

Regards,

Christopher.
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