Hi Rick and David, You are right. The tutorial do cover recording procedures, but if I remember, it only covers recording with a microphone.
Below are the questions to Chris of GoldWave and his answers. I was asking him some basic questions on how to record LPs with GoldWave. The same procedures can be used for tapes. I think that the recording level should be properly set for a good recording. Incidentally, the output will be in WAV format which can be converted to MP3. If I can be of any further help with this particular subject, please contact me. I am still new at this though. Lennie Lennie wrote: Q: The question I have, is there any way that I can adjust the recording level when I set up my LPs? A: You can turn on the "Monitor input" option in GoldWave (press F11, Record tab). That will monitor the input levels even when you are not recording. If a screen reader is active, then the recording and playback levels are given numerically with the elapsed time and status. They are the percent values given at the end. You need to hold down the Ctrl key for a while to update the numerical levels, which are peak values. Releasing and pressing the Ctrl key again resets the values and scans for new peak levels. Adjust the volume level (press F11, Volume tab) so that the loudest peaks are about 90% to 95%. Chris Lennie wrote: Q: I still cannot hear any volume level when I play sound in line-in... A: Are you able to read the elapsed time and status? When you run GoldWave, two windows appear: the Main window and the Control window. The elapsed time is given on the Control window. If you press Alt+F6, focus should change between the Main window and the Control window. Do that first. Once focus is in the Control window, you can use the Tab key to move between the buttons, faders, and the elapsed time box. It should read "Stop 0.0 (0% 0%)". That is the status, elapsed time, and percent levels. Chris Lennie wrote: Q: However, I have the line-in volume set at 95 and the percentage in the control area showed a very low percentage like 16%. I do not see the relationship between the actual recording level between the two... A: Unfortunately that is normal. There is no exact relationship between the volume level setting and the actual input level because there are many variables. Holding the Ctrl key for a longer period of time may find higher peaks. Try playing the loudest part of the LP and holding the Ctrl key during that time. If the peak level is consistently lower than 50%, you'll need to increase volume levels either externally or in the program. To avoid distortion the level should never hit 100% or more. If you haven't done so, enable the "Monitor input" option (press F11, Record tab). That will allow you to scan the input level with the Ctrl key without having to start a test recording. Chris Lennie wrote: Q: I noticed that 0.0 is the elapsed time, but what is the difference between the first percentage and the second percentage? A: The first one is the left channel level and the second is the right. Q. When I hold the control key down, am I supposed to hear Jaws telling me anything or does it just change the peak and I have to get Jaws tell me the percentages? A: JAWS probably wouldn't tell you anything. When you hold the Ctrl key, GoldWave scans the input for the maximum amplitude and updates the percent levels. You'd have to make JAWS re-read the levels. Q. How do I tell when the peak is reached? You mentioned 90% - 95% A: The percent values are always the highest peak levels. In other words, they are the maximum levels that GoldWave could find while you where holding the Ctrl key. Whether or not they are the maximum peak levels of the entire song is a different question. You'd have to hold down the Ctrl key for the entire song to find those. After recording a song you could use the "Effect | Volume | Maximize Volume" command to scan the entire recording to determine what the peak values are, which might be easier than holding the Ctrl key for several minutes. Ideally the maximum levels should be above 0.9 but less than 1.0. Chris Lennie wrote: Q: I noticed that the highest reading at 58 was 54% in the right channel. I think that what you are telling me is that is too low? Right? A: Right. If you can set the recording volume a bit higher, that would be better. Chris Lennie wrote: Q: You mentioned that the maximum should be above .9 but less than 1. Where do I find this information? A: When you use the Maximize Volume effect, the window displays the maximums as amplitudes and as dB in parenthesis in the "Current maximum" area. The Narrator accessibility accessory reads the values, so JAWS shouldn't have any trouble reading them too. After recording, the maximum should be around 0.9 for a good input volume level. It does not matter if it is a bit less, but it should not be 1.0. That would mean the input volume is too high and there could be some clipping distortion. It would be best to redo the recording in that case after lowering the input volume slightly. Chris Lennie wrote: Q: When I went into the control window, I did tab, but the status box was nowhere to be found... A: The status box should be after the Speed fader when tabbing between controls. If it is not there, maybe GoldWave did not detect that your screen reader was running. That needs to be running before your start GoldWave. Chris At 01:06 PM 6/29/2007, you wrote: >Hi Lennie, >You are correct, setting the volume wasn't specifically addressed on the >list, >but I believe it was covered in one of the GoldWave tutorials on the >website. >Thanks for sharing with the list, that's what makes this thing work so well. >I look forward to hearing from you with your follow-up posts. >Thanks, >Richard Justice >www.blind-computing.com >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lennie Rinaldi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:03 AM >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Transferring Cassette To PC Question > > >Hello David and Rick, > >I would like to add another thing about recording tapes and records to the >PC. > >I have done a lot of recordings of my record albums and done one from >my tape deck with another software called Dart XP. It is accessible >with Jaws except for editing. I don't recommend it because it is more >expensive and hard to use. That's why I prefer GoldWave. > >I am still in the process of learning to record with GoldWave, but I >want to point out one important fact about recording music which was >not mentioned here. > >You will have to set up the proper volume level for recording >otherwise you may end up with distortion in the final output. I have >not heard any tutorial on how to set up the recording level with >GoldWave. The developer of GoldWave (Chris) has replied to my >numerous questions on how to do this correctly. It is sort of time >consuming and tedious. I in no way trying to discourage anybody from >doing this. > >As soon as I can get a handle on the proper procedure to set up the >volume level, I will share it with the group. > >I will follow up with another Email to the list some of the >information that I received from Chris later today. > >Just trying to help. > >Lennie > >At 09:02 AM 6/29/2007, you wrote: > >Rick is correct about the special cable to use if recording off a direct > >sound out put such as an ear phone jack. I didn't think to mention that > >since I have never done it that way at all but I do know some folks who do. > >Now that will work for simple voice where sound quality isn't a premium, > >but > >for music you must be very careful as it has a tendency to mess up the > >final > >product. Just my opinion on that last of course, some people like recording > >that way. Myself I always record from the jacks in the rear of a tape deck > >that are normally designed to feed a stereo amplifier. Those jacks will > >feed > >a computer's sound card perfectly just like they do a home stereo system. > >As > >always if there's anything else just give a yell, interestingly enough > >although I haven't done this for a while I did do some recording yesterday > >using the method I've previously outlined. > >David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ricque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:32 AM > >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Transferring Cassette To PC Question > > > > > >Hi Larry, > >If you are recording directly from a source that is normally controlled by > >an amplifier, > >then you would need the atenuated patch cord to keep from overdriving the > >soundcard. > >An example of this could be a direct audio output from a VCR, or > >stand-alone > >cassette deck. > >This is usually not a problem with portable cassette recorder/players. > >Just make sure that you match the cable to the type of player, i e, mono > >for > >mono, and stereo for stereo. > >Example: > >If you are recording from a stereo player, and you use a mono cable, you > >will only be getting one channel. > >As David has mentioned, how and what you intend to record will determine > >the software required for the job. > >Example: > >If you are going to recordan NLS tape for instance, there are two ways of > >doing this. > >1. If you are going to record from a 4-track player such as those used for > >Talking Books, > >a simple audio recording program will do, > >but you will need to record each track as if you wer listening to the tape. > >2. If you want to play the tape as a 2 track tape in the same recorder, > >or use another 2-track recorder, then you would use a program such as > >GoldWave to seperate, and reverse the tracks. > >Something worth mentioning here, if you are recording in mono such as > >lectures or someone just reading a book, then you do not need to record in > >stereo, and you should use a reduced sample rate, to minimize the size of > >the file. > >David can comment further on this as he has more experience with it than I. > >I would recommend listening to the audio tutorials for GoldWave on the > >audio > >page at: > >www.blind-computing.com > >These are very good tutorials and easy to follow. > >If you need more help, let us know. > >HTH, > >Richard Justice > >www.blind-computing.com > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Larry Stansifer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > >Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:30 AM > >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Transferring Cassette To PC Question > > > > > >Rick, > > > >How do I determine if I need an attenuated patch cable? > > > >Regards > > > >Larry Stansifer > > > >Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. > > > >Sun Tzu. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >Ricque > >Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:32 PM > >To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com > >Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Transferring Cassette To PC > >Question > > > > > >Hi Donnie, > >Yes, it is possible. > >You need a cassette recorder that will accomodate the type > >of cassette, i e, > >2 track or 4 track. > >You will need a patch cable from the player/recorder to your > >sound card on > >your computer. > >You can pickup one of these at somewhere like Radio Shack, > >and depending on > >your particular equipment, > >it may need to be an atenuated patch cord to avoid > >overdriving the > >soundcard > >And last but not least, you will need recording software > >such as GoldWave, > >for the recording, and plenty of hard drive space. > >HTH, > >Richard Justice > >www.blind-computing.com > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Donnie Parrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Blind-Computing" <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > >Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:02 PM > >Subject: [Blind-Computing] Transferring Cassette To PC > >Question > > > > > >Is it possible to transfer a cassette tape from a regular > >cassette tape > >recorder to my computer? 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