All,
In the past month the membership to both lists has grown, causing the 
management team
to take a closer look at general list operation.
A couple of items have come to the attention of the management team
and this applies to both the blind-computing, and jaws-users lists.
Members that are subscribed to both lists, will get this twice since it will be 
posted to both 
lists.
1. Cross-posting
Recently, it appears that the number of cross-postings to the list has 
increased.
We need to bring this method of posting to an end.
Besides the fact that cross-posting is improper e-mail list etiquet,
it's benefits are out-weighed by the problems it causes.
Plain and simplly put, it's nothing less than laziness on the part of the 
poster.
This method of posting plays havoc with some peoples message rules in their 
e-mail client.
This practice is annoying, as well as inconsiderate, and discourteous to others.
Members should not have to adjust their message rules , to accomodate those who 
won't take an extra 
minute or so to post in a proper manner.
Additionally, it generates unnecessary list traffic, and actually serves to 
slow the overall 
performance of the list.
If you want to post the same question to multiple lists, then it should be done 
on an individual 
message basis.
I currently subscribe to more than 30 lists, and on occasion I will post the 
same question to 
several lists, but I do it without cross-posting.
If you are subscribed to several lists, as I'm sure many are, then
post your question to the list that is most appropriate for it.
If you don't recieve an answer, then you can
figure 1 of 2 things generally speaking:
Either no one on-list has an answer to your question, or the person that has an 
answer hasn't read 
the message yet.
If you don't get an answer on a specialized list such as for example 
jaws-users.com,
Then post your question to a more generalized list such as blind-computing.com.
There is a list of e-mail lists on the resources page at:
www.blind-computing.com
that includes links to other pages that contain additional e-mail list 
information.
Also, just like placing o/t in the subject field doesn't make it okay to post 
the message,
saying I apologize, or sorry for the cross-posting doesn't excuse the action.
Placing this statement in the message says  that the poster has only one 
consideration, and that is 
themselves.
Don't perform the action, and you won't have to apologize for it.
For those in an employment situation, I can understand your sense of urgency 
for an answer to a 
problem,
but you get what you pay for, and if you expect a quick answer to your 
question, you should be 
getting tech support on a pay-for basis, where you can have more of a say in 
how your request is 
handled.
Let's remenmber that e-mail lists are comprised of people of all computing 
skills,
and that noone here is getting paid for the assistance they offer.
If you are not in an employment situation, and your questions are aimed at 
personal computing, then,
there should be less of a sense of urgency.
Everyone on the list does their best to respond in a timely mmanner.
So, we all need to be patient.
Keep in mind, that this doesn't mean one type of user is more deserving of help 
than another.
David and I will work on the appropriate wording for this , and it will be 
added to the list 
guidelines, at the earliest possible time.

2. File Requests.
Recently, we have had some excellent contributions to the list, from within the 
membership.
And we want to encourage this to continue.
We will be working on a better system of file distribution,
so that when menmbers have files  they want to share with the list,
we have a way for members to get the file, or files to the management team
so that we can make them readily available to all list members.
The reason for this, is thatwhen a member posts to the list, that they have 
files to share,
this dramatically increases list traffic and band width.
In order to stream the process and make it more efficient, we will see what we 
can put in place
to facilitate this.
If we can make this happen, then there will be no need to post to the list
asking  people to send files privately.
If a member has a file that may benefit other users, and he or she wants to 
send it to another 
member privately,
then they need to take that transaction completely off-list.
This will greatly reduce the occurance of people flooding the list with
requests for private e-mail attachments.
How it works:
When a member has a file to share with the list membership,
they need only make it available to the management team.
At this point, the management team can put the file in an accessible location, 
and then make the 
membership aware of that location,
with only one post to the list.
Now, you can see that 1 message is posted, but the file is available to all 
members.
Instant reduction in redundent messages to the list.
3. Just a reminder, that we all, management team included, need to try and keep 
our subject lines on 
track.
If David has additional comments he will post them in a seperate post.

Richard Justice-list moderator
David A. Ferrin list owner
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www.jaws-users.com 
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