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Today's Topics:
1. Re: What Would you like to be Available in FutureVersions of
JAWS? (Carlene Knight)
2. Re: What Would you like to be Available inFutureVersions of
JAWS? (Gerald Levy)
3. Re: Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12 (George McDermith)
4. Re: What Would you like to be Availablein FutureVersions of
JAWS? (Lino Morales)
5. Re: Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12 (Rosemarie Chavarria)
6. WindowEyes (Lino Morales)
7. Re: What Would you like to be AvailableinFutureVersions of
JAWS? (Rosemarie Chavarria)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:00:44 -0800
From: Carlene Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be Available in
FutureVersions of JAWS?
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
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Have they resolved the find function in Firefox 3? I know it's not that
hard to
use alt control f for whatever the key stroke is, but I use this feature
constantly and it's a pain when I hit control f and just screw up things.
Control f is so quick and easy and I've used it for years. I know I'm
whining.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:41:50 -0500, you wrote:
There's something called webvisum that you can get as an add on to firefox
3. It should help with your issues with Capchas.
Kate
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:09:13 -0500
From: "Gerald Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be Available
inFutureVersions of JAWS?
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Control-F works in Firefox 3 only with JAWS 10. For other versions of
JAWS,
Insert-Control-F works.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlene Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be Available
inFutureVersions of JAWS?
Have they resolved the find function in Firefox 3? I know it's not that
hard to
use alt control f for whatever the key stroke is, but I use this feature
constantly and it's a pain when I hit control f and just screw up things.
Control f is so quick and easy and I've used it for years. I know I'm
whining.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:41:50 -0500, you wrote:
There's something called webvisum that you can get as an add on to
firefox
3. It should help with your issues with Capchas.
Kate
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 11:43:32 -0700
From: George McDermith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 10, Issue
12
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I use JAWS and the PAC Mate, but I'm pretty sure FS wouldn't appreciate
my suggestions, like actually involving themselves with other AT companies
to ensure equal access and value to their customers. Making their Braille
displays (PM and Focus) have a plug and play feature built in so those who
don't use JAWS can still use their Braille displays if they wish, and
similar suggestions.
Palying nice doesn't seem to be FS's way though. I am going to be
switching screen readers to System Access and the Alva BC640 next year due
to this snarkiness on their behalf. The customer service sucked, and
while
I could deal with that, the combination of feeling like I'm dealing with
Microsoft in India combined with the general attatude of FS towards their
customers in particular and the AT community in General was just too much.
I have loved JAWS and used it for the past 12 years, so am sorry to need
to
make the switch, but in the end I cannot support a company that cares so
little about its customers.
My thoughts only of course.
George
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:19:07 -0500
From: "Lino Morales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be Availablein
FutureVersions of JAWS?
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'll weigh in before Rick and Dave kick me off list LOL. I wish and I know
everyone agrees with me is that I wish FS would you let you the consumer
make credit card payments towards the purchase of JFW and Magic. I think
it
would surly partially eliminate the bozos who make cracked versions of
JFW.
I mean what is FS loosing? Hell they are getting there money! Sorry for
being so harsh, but not everyone is involved with department of rehab or
division of blind services who needs JFW for work or home and for people
like me and my wife who can't afford the $900 cost. OK orf me soap box
now.
Your bro in Christ,
Lino Morales and Louie Lab
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlene Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be Availablein
FutureVersions of JAWS?
Have they resolved the find function in Firefox 3? I know it's not that
hard to
use alt control f for whatever the key stroke is, but I use this feature
constantly and it's a pain when I hit control f and just screw up things.
Control f is so quick and easy and I've used it for years. I know I'm
whining.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:41:50 -0500, you wrote:
There's something called webvisum that you can get as an add on to firefox
3. It should help with your issues with Capchas.
Kate
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:48:24 -0800
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 10, Issue
12
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
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Hi, George. It would be nice if Freedom Scientific could share ideas and
work with other companies to make things better for blind customers. The
one thing I really like about GW Micro is that if you can't afford to buy
Window-eyes, you can get it on a lease-to-own program. I don't know why
Freedom Scientific can't let people buy Jaws in the same way.
Rosemarie
----- Original Message -----
From: "George McDermith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12
I use JAWS and the PAC Mate, but I'm pretty sure FS wouldn't
appreciate
my suggestions, like actually involving themselves with other AT
companies
to ensure equal access and value to their customers. Making their
Braille
displays (PM and Focus) have a plug and play feature built in so those
who
don't use JAWS can still use their Braille displays if they wish, and
similar suggestions.
Palying nice doesn't seem to be FS's way though. I am going to be
switching screen readers to System Access and the Alva BC640 next year
due
to this snarkiness on their behalf. The customer service sucked, and
while I could deal with that, the combination of feeling like I'm dealing
with Microsoft in India combined with the general attatude of FS towards
their customers in particular and the AT community in General was just
too
much. I have loved JAWS and used it for the past 12 years, so am sorry to
need to make the switch, but in the end I cannot support a company that
cares so little about its customers.
My thoughts only of course.
George
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 14:52:27 -0500
From: "Lino Morales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Blind-Computing] WindowEyes
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
My only minor beef with that is that say what if 2 people who are blind
live in the same house like in my case and we both wanted WINEyes. The
license is for only 1 person. It's a good deal they've got going though.
Lino Morales and Louie Lab
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12
Hi, George. It would be nice if Freedom Scientific could share ideas and
work with other companies to make things better for blind customers. The
one thing I really like about GW Micro is that if you can't afford to buy
Window-eyes, you can get it on a lease-to-own program. I don't know why
Freedom Scientific can't let people buy Jaws in the same way.
Rosemarie
----- Original Message -----
From: "George McDermith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Blind-Computing Digest, Vol 10, Issue 12
I use JAWS and the PAC Mate, but I'm pretty sure FS wouldn't
appreciate
my suggestions, like actually involving themselves with other AT
companies
to ensure equal access and value to their customers. Making their
Braille
displays (PM and Focus) have a plug and play feature built in so those
who
don't use JAWS can still use their Braille displays if they wish, and
similar suggestions.
Palying nice doesn't seem to be FS's way though. I am going to be
switching screen readers to System Access and the Alva BC640 next year
due
to this snarkiness on their behalf. The customer service sucked, and
while I could deal with that, the combination of feeling like I'm dealing
with Microsoft in India combined with the general attatude of FS towards
their customers in particular and the AT community in General was just
too
much. I have loved JAWS and used it for the past 12 years, so am sorry to
need to make the switch, but in the end I cannot support a company that
cares so little about its customers.
My thoughts only of course.
George
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:53:35 -0800
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be
AvailableinFutureVersions of JAWS?
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
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Hi, Lino. The thing I hate about voc rehab is that they won't give you a
screen reader like Jaws unless it's work related. There used to be a
homemaker program where you could get Jaws for personal use at home but I
think that went out the window. If it wasn't for my parents helping me
get
Jaws, I probably wouldn't even have a computer now.
Your sister in Christ,
Rosemarie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be
AvailableinFutureVersions of JAWS?
I'll weigh in before Rick and Dave kick me off list LOL. I wish and I
know
everyone agrees with me is that I wish FS would you let you the consumer
make credit card payments towards the purchase of JFW and Magic. I think
it
would surly partially eliminate the bozos who make cracked versions of
JFW.
I mean what is FS loosing? Hell they are getting there money! Sorry for
being so harsh, but not everyone is involved with department of rehab or
division of blind services who needs JFW for work or home and for people
like me and my wife who can't afford the $900 cost. OK orf me soap box
now.
Your bro in Christ,
Lino Morales and Louie Lab
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlene Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] What Would you like to be Availablein
FutureVersions of JAWS?
Have they resolved the find function in Firefox 3? I know it's not that
hard to
use alt control f for whatever the key stroke is, but I use this feature
constantly and it's a pain when I hit control f and just screw up things.
Control f is so quick and easy and I've used it for years. I know I'm
whining.
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 17:41:50 -0500, you wrote:
There's something called webvisum that you can get as an add on to
firefox
3. It should help with your issues with Capchas.
Kate
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