John,
I currently have an AMD processor on a system running XP and have generally not experienced that problem. I think I have seen it discussed in the past, though, and can understand how loss of data like that can be frustrating. I'm not disagreeing with your experience but don't know whether there is something about the processor's buffering itself that contributes to this or whether it is a function of multitasking. It would be helpful if you could direct me to whatever you've researched because presumably others have noted this as well. I'd appreciate if others could also weigh in on this, especially if they have had the same experience. (As a rule I do try to save every thirty pages or so when doing a large scanning project as advised, but of course it is easy to forget.) it might be interesting if OpenBook and/or Kurzweil could incorporate some kind of automatic save feature as with word processors, but I have no idea how or whether this is feasible from a programming standpoint. I had assumed that Athelon and Intel processors were relatively interchangeable once you account for the speed, so this is all kind of new to me. Many thanks.

Susan

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Justice" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] specs for new computer


Susan, I see one glaring problem with your proposed system.
I have an HP off the shelf computer with an AMD processor and I'm having a
lot of trouble with it.  Perhaps, with your son building the machine, some
of this might not happen but my research indicates that the problem is with
the AMD processor, not anything else.

When using Open Book, apparently, AMD has some kind of memory buffer and
that limits the amount of unsaved data you can work with. As a result, you can lose an entire scanned document if you don't save after every few pages.
Open Book is a real memory hog at the best of times and normally, I don't
care about that. But I did lose a 50 page document because I was using fast
scan and didn't save regularly. .

For me, and I have nothing against the company itself, I would never own
another computer with an AMD processor because of its unique properties. I
would strongly recommend that you have your system built with an Intel
processor rather than one driven by AMD.
Normally, sighted people don't use programs which eat up memory like some of
our adaptive systems do.  Even their game software doesn't burn as much
memory. After a given amount of info ends up on that buffer, AMD will shut down the software. That has happened to me with both Open Book and another
program I use regularly.  I am not sure why this should be so.  I can only
tell you that it is annoying and devastating at times.
If you have the choice, in my opinion, I would spend the extra money and
make the mother board one based on Intel.



John and Linda Justice
With guide dogs Jake and Zachary
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Blind-Computing] specs for new computer

Hi everyone,
I am planning to purchase a new desktop PC. Besides email and word
processing, I will be using it  for scanning and reading with OpenBook,
streaming and recording primarily with Replay-AV, and possibly Skype. My son
will be putting the system together for me and these are the specs he is
considering. (I think all are currently in stock except for the
motherboard.) I would appreciate any expertise on this.


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Also, can someone remind me of the sequence to follow when installing the
scanner and OB. I know this should be a no brainer, but I did it wrong my
first time out with OB and crashed my whole system, much to the thinly
veiled amusement of the FS tech with whom i later spoke. (In all fairness,
he was very polite and didn't call me the idiot i probably was, but his
reaction suggested that I wasn't the first person on the planet to mess it
up.) I assume the steps are drivers/software first, connect the scanner,
then install Openbook? I am migrating from XP to Windows 7 and jumping from
JAWS 8 to 12, so any other advice is welcome.  Tia.

Susan



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