I have always had AMD and never a bit of trouble, would be verry
hesitant about changing, but who knows. PERHAPS IT COMES DOWN TO
WHAT EXACTLY AND HOW MUCH You are trying to do. As par for the
course I only ever have programs open that need to be and nevrer have
unneccessary stuff running in the background
Graham
At 07:33 AM 5/25/2011 -0600, you wrote:
Weird, as I have had no issues with AMD's and actually prefer them.
Robin East
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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Sent: May 24, 2011 10:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] specs for new computer
Hi,
I had a lot of AMD's and I will not by them again.
If you can, go with an intel core I3, I5, or above or if you want
something a little bit older, go with the Core2 Dual.
Adi.
On 5/25/11, susan wojtecki <[email protected]> wrote:
> John,
> I currently have an AMD processor on a system running XP and have
> generally not experienced that problem. I think I have seen it
> discussed in the past, though, and can understand how loss of data
like that can be frustrating.
> I'm not disagreeing with your experience but don't know whether there
> is something about the processor's buffering itself that contributes
> to this or whether it is a function of multitasking. It would be
> helpful if you could direct me to whatever you've researched because
> presumably others have noted this as well. I'd appreciate if others
> could also weigh in on this, especially if they have had the same
> experience. (As a rule I do try to save every thirty pages or so when
> doing a large scanning project as advised, but of course it is easy to
> forget.) it might be interesting if OpenBook and/or Kurzweil could
> incorporate some kind of automatic save feature as with word
> processors, but I have no idea how or whether this is feasible from a
> programming standpoint. I had assumed that Athelon and Intel
> processors were relatively interchangeable once you account for the
speed, so this is all kind of new to me. Many thanks.
>
> Susan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Justice" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] specs for new computer
>
>
>> Susan, I see one glaring problem with your proposed system.
>> I have an HP off the shelf computer with an AMD processor and I'm
>> having a lot of trouble with it. Perhaps, with your son building the
>> machine, some of this might not happen but my research indicates that
>> the problem is with the AMD processor, not anything else.
>>
>> When using Open Book, apparently, AMD has some kind of memory buffer
>> and that limits the amount of unsaved data you can work with. As a
>> result, you can lose an entire scanned document if you don't save
>> after every few pages.
>> Open Book is a real memory hog at the best of times and normally, I
>> don't care about that. But I did lose a 50 page document because I
>> was using fast scan and didn't save regularly. .
>>
>> For me, and I have nothing against the company itself, I would never
>> own another computer with an AMD processor because of its unique
properties.
>> I
>> would strongly recommend that you have your system built with an
>> Intel processor rather than one driven by AMD.
>> Normally, sighted people don't use programs which eat up memory like
>> some of our adaptive systems do. Even their game software doesn't
>> burn as much memory. After a given amount of info ends up on that
>> buffer, AMD will shut down the software. That has happened to me
>> with both Open Book and another program I use regularly. I am not
>> sure why this should be so. I can only tell you that it is annoying
>> and devastating at times.
>> If you have the choice, in my opinion, I would spend the extra money
>> and make the mother board one based on Intel.
>>
>>
>>
>> John and Linda Justice
>> With guide dogs Jake and Zachary
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan
>> wojtecki
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:01 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] specs for new computer
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am planning to purchase a new desktop PC. Besides email and word
>> processing, I will be using it for scanning and reading with
>> OpenBook, streaming and recording primarily with Replay-AV, and
>> possibly Skype. My son will be putting the system together for me and
>> these are the specs he is considering. (I think all are currently in
>> stock except for the
>> motherboard.) I would appreciate any expertise on this.
>>
>>
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>> Also, can someone remind me of the sequence to follow when installing
>> the scanner and OB. I know this should be a no brainer, but I did it
>> wrong my first time out with OB and crashed my whole system, much to
>> the thinly veiled amusement of the FS tech with whom i later spoke.
>> (In all fairness, he was very polite and didn't call me the idiot i
>> probably was, but his reaction suggested that I wasn't the first
>> person on the planet to mess it
>> up.) I assume the steps are drivers/software first, connect the
>> scanner, then install Openbook? I am migrating from XP to Windows 7
>> and jumping from JAWS 8 to 12, so any other advice is welcome. Tia.
>>
>> Susan
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