Actually, as I remember it, James North did keep us updated when delays
cropped up. Most of the delays dealt with bugs in the games, and I thought
that the delays were justified. As for the last batch of games after the
company name change, I think that we should have gotten lur money back when
he closed up shop out of anger. We had been waiting for 3 or 4 years.
Thomas Ward took the games over from Josh de Lioncourt if I remember
correctly. I haven't heard from Josh in quite some time, and Thomas is,
unfortunately, not with us lowly Earthlings anymore.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 2:59 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
<sigh>
Have everyone forgotthe disaster which james north became?
Now james north was a nice guy that decided after esp softworks had sold
a lot of arcade games that he wanted a change and sold the company to
what eventually became draconis.
He should never had done that, up till then he was doing fine but wanted
more.
So he created some new games under his company, he set a preorder for
everything, and a few people payed for his stuff.
We waited and waited, and waited, the games past the release date.
We asked him and asked him off and on and wandered at it.
For 5 years the community waited, finaly those that had preordered
started to wander if they would ever get their games, some going as far
as to ask their banks for refunds.
Sure there were probably some whiners but probably far less than there
are now.
Between those times he never told us what was going on or what was
really going on.
Maybe someones or a group of them became totally bad and assholish at
him, but to the outsider player that was hanging on he suddenly decided
to flip for no reason, burn out and rage quit the scene.
Maybe something was going on, maybe people were nasty at him, but it had
to be more than that, no news, nothing for ages.
True a lot of devs do this but to be honest, from then on no one
releases stuff unless they are sure it will be out on that day.
Users especially those that preorder games want their games.
Thomas ward tried, he died!, no one will ever get their games now.
I don't know if I would really want to be james north and come back.
There are people that would really like to flame him out for those games
we have never even gotten.
He owes the community big.
He never informed us, I guess if he is more open and lets us know what
is going on, then maybe.
He lost all the trust though, I my self was never nasty with him, I
asked him once about stuff and he just flipped.
We are better without him now.
If he comes back, maybe we will be nice, maybe not.
There are at least 4-5 unreleased games and some of them have been
ordered by several players, with no refunds or anything.
Thats how I understand that history.
On 31/12/2017 5:02 a.m., Charles Rivard wrote:
He made it very clear that he would not be producing games for impatient
and nasty customers anymore. If you have contact info for him, contact
him to see if he would give it another try. In short, though, lotsa luck.
Some, but not all, blind and visually impaired gamers were far too
hostile.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
From: Lisa Hayes
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:03 AM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
josh any idea how to do this? I'd love it.
From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 3:01 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
If James North was driven away, then why don't we simply just get him to
come back?
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On December 29, 2017 22:39:49 "Lisa Hayes" <lhay...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
Yes He was driven away and those involved have deprived us of a good
game writer who would have continued to provide games like monkey business
and the two pinball games.
From: Michael
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 11:38 AM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
I couldn’t agree more, that I wish James North was never driven away
from the blind gamer community. Though that sounds harsh, sadly that’s
pretty much what happened. ☹
I’ve paid my bit for a hero’s call, and I’m waiting for a link now. I’m
puzzled why this release was chozen to happen right in the middle of a
holiday week like this. Lol
Michael
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From: Lisa Hayes
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 6:31 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
Charles i agree with you here, we have pinball and others that James
did that can be played and never loose their interest value.
From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 8:43 AM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Heros Call question
I would not gripe, if at all, until the day after an expected release.
However, I won’t complain about this one even tomorrow, as we are in a
busy Holiday season, and even developers have home lives. How many good
developers of good games have we lost due to customer impatience? As an
example, I do wish that James North were still working on games for blind
gamers. When they came out, they were of high quality and they were
unique.
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
From: Jesse Bollinger
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 3:19 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Heros Call question
I think the problem is most people expect the games to be released like
in the cited world. Where you hit midnight and the game is ready to go.
This isn’t the right outlook to have, however I feel like that is what
most expect. I think most people think when you give a date that means
everything is good to go and will be released promptly at midnight. No one
has patients.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 29, 2017, at 4:09 PM, kev lyon <lord.l...@sky.com> wrote:
because people never ever! learn! the gaming community for the blind
has lost so many developers over the years because people can't shut up
and just let the developers get on with what they do!
as soon as a date is mentioned, the vast majority engrave it in
stone! and then start wingeing when the game isn't availabel at 1 minute
past midnight on that date!
*goes back to playing alter eon and will play this new game when it
arrives*
From: blind-gamers@groups.io [mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: 29 December 2017 19:02
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Heros Call question
Why are people so dad blamed impatient?
If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
From: Bryan Peterson
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 12:12 PM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: Re: [blind-gamers] A Heros Call question
We’re just going to have to be patient. Joseph did say it would be
somewhat later in the day, though he wasn’t specific about exactly when.
He wants the entire development team to be able to be present so it’ll
depend on when that’ll happen.
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From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:06 AM
To: blind-gamers@groups.io
Subject: [blind-gamers] A Heros Call question
Hello all,
Has anyone heard when this will be out today? I supported the
kickstarter but I still have not heard anything about downloading the game
today.
Regards,
Greg Wocher
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