Hi,

I bought moto racing championship a bit ago. It really wasn't too horrible, I pick it up to play once and again. I can't figure out how to turn properly but that's probably because I haven't really practiced enough.


On 2019-02-03 6:28 p.m., Charles Rivard wrote:
We agree to disagree.  $5 or $10 for all of Marty’s games would be expecting far too much for your money.  My priorities are that I would be willing to go without a pizza being delivered this month if I could play Blindfold Breakout from now on for the rest of my life.  Pizza next month, another game in April of May, and so on.  Gradually, I would get those I want, and at what I consider to be a fair price each. Have you tried Audio Rally Racing and the similar Motocross Championchip games for iDevices?  If so, what do you think of them?  I feel that they are worth the $15 I paid for each.

If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!!
*From:* Tyler Wood <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, February 03, 2019 5:25 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: in defense of the Blindfold series - Re: [blind-gamers] Play GoldGun Episode 1 for Free

You wrote:

Response:  I am glad that there are so many of them.  If you don’t like them, skip them.  There are, however, people who get a lot of fun from the variety of games available.  Do you have the same complaint about Jim Kitchen’s set of games?  I say, the wider the selection, the better.  There are a lot of blind gamers who still feel that there are not enough

accessible games.  I am one of them.

My Response: The difference is that Jim Kitchens games have a main menu and you can now download them all in one shot - thus not requiring 50 plus listed programs to scroll through. They're also free to play, which is a pretty key point to make here - blindfold games essentially requires you to pay to play. Sure, it looks free, but that price increases exponentially over time. Jim Kitchen's games were also not required to adhere to guidelines set out - nor did he play up the blind card like Marty did - when told by apple to make his games have a centralized main menu in one app - or at least be categorized better, and this is by far my biggest issue and why I refuse to put money in his pockets.

Regarding the more audiogames point, I couldn't agree more with you. However there is a difference between being honest and making 70 plus games ((((and most hardly able to be played unless money is spent). When all is said and done, why not make a monthly subscription for unlimited coins throughout all games? I'd more than happily pay that, it is a revenue that can only increase over time. But what do I know?

Response: $5 or $10 for the entire set??  I would say that you are just the opposite of what you think of Marty’s prices.  You are insanely stingy, wanting to spend far less than they are worth.  In actuality, Marty got the opinions of beta testers, of which there are quite a number, as to what a fair price would be for each game. And here is a key point; the games are sold separately rather than a single package.  This actually kept the price down.  If you buy the full package for one game, the price is fair.  You choose which one or ones you like, and pay a fair price for each.  Your complaint would fall on deaf ears if a mainstream company produced a new version of a popular game once a year over a 10 year period and you griped about the cost of a set containing all 10 fairly priced individual games.  You are expecting Marty to offer over 70 games for what a single low priced game would cost.  In short, this is totally ridiculous on your part.

Response: RS games does not have 70 games. It has at most 25 - 30. The client is free on the pc. You failed to mention that. If a mainstream company released a game that was free, a free version would come out for a mobile device. If the game was paid to begin with, a much discounted version for existing customers  would likely be available for purchase. I don't mind paying a price for the programming costs - nothing is free - but I fail to see how this price scheme benefits the consumer who wants all games. It doesn't appear to be very discounted - again, I'd have less of an issue if it were.

I suppose I'm just not a fan of the company and the way that he conducts business. I more than happily bought a hero's call, for example - and despite the company being quite up in the air right now, I would do it again. I'll likely buy golden gun when it is available for purchase. I enjoy supporting audiogame developers when they're honest, fair, and not playing themselves up to be the victim.

Again, I have my opinion, you have yours. I'd more than happily pay $40-50 for a racing game that was in depth had a story (unlockables, realism, etc).

Tyler
On 2019-02-03 4:33 p.m., Charles Rivard wrote:
Here is your message, along with why I totally disagree with your statements:

This is almost like the blindfold games (which I still boycott and always will) for not following apple's guidelines.

Response:  If you followed the battle between Marty Schultz and Apple, and you did so with an open mind, Marty’s reasoning was very sound.  In fact, Apple actually agreed that he was correct and allowed his games to remain available through the app store.

There are too many blindfold games out there (and all of them basically pay to play,

Response:  I am glad that there are so many of them.  If you don’t like them, skip them.  There are, however, people who get a lot of fun from the variety of games available.  Do you have the same complaint about Jim Kitchen’s set of games?  I say, the wider the selection, the better.  There are a lot of blind gamers who still feel that there are not enough accessible games.  I am one of them.

And the amount of money charged to play the entire catalogue of RS games on an iPhone is unapologetically money hungry. It's free on the computer - I can understand perhaps $5.00 for the entire set. Even $10.

Response: $5 or $10 for the entire set??  I would say that you are just the opposite of what you think of Marty’s prices.  You are insanely stingy, wanting to spend far less than they are worth.  In actuality, Marty got the opinions of beta testers, of which there are quite a number, as to what a fair price would be for each game.  And here is a key point; the games are sold separately rather than a single package.  This actually kept the price down. If you buy the full package for one game, the price is fair.  You choose which one or ones you like, and pay a fair price for each.  Your complaint would fall on deaf ears if a mainstream company produced a new version of a popular game once a year over a 10 year period and you griped about the cost of a set containing all 10 fairly priced individual games. You are expecting Marty to offer over 70 games for what a single low priced game would cost.  In short, this is totally ridiculous on your part.


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*From:* Tyler Wood <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, February 02, 2019 6:02 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [blind-gamers] Play GoldGun Episode 1 for Free

Hi,

I seriously have to agree here.

Stop playing the blind card. I'm tired of it. And I'm blind.

We try and tell everyone else to set standards for accessibility. So what's the trouble with actually getting a logo and title to display on screen? Pretty hypocritical, don't you think?

This is almost like the blindfold games (which I still boycott and always will) for not following apple's guidelines. There are too many blindfold games out there (and all of them basically pay to play, in theory). What is the big deal about categorizing them? No, we had to play the blind card. And the amount of money charged to play the entire catalogue of RS games on an iPhone is unapologetically money hungry. It's free on the computer - I can understand perhaps $5.00 for the entire set. Even $10.

Anyway, just my $.02, which is probably getting off the topic. I apologize. I also just had to rant a little there because this is getting ridiculous.

On 2019-02-02 5:51 p.m., marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Eleanor,
Where can I find the games that you made? I got interested to try them.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 02/02/2019 20:58, Eleanor escreveu:

Sighted folk (and I am one) frequently play with the sound turned off to prevent disturbing others that are close by.  They would not hear anything and if they didn't see anything, they would think the computer died or something like that.  I have played audio games, and we produced a number of blind accessible games, but we wanted everyone to be able to play the games we made.  Having a blank screen would prevent anyone who has sound turned down from playing because they would not know the game was there.

Eleanor Robinson

7-128 Software

On 2/1/2019 10:50 AM, lori duncan wrote:

That's why I said discrimination, would it kill sighted folks to use their imaginations and their ears!

On 01/02/2019 11:37, Darren Duff wrote:
Well sure! it might just be an audio game where nothing is happening on the screen. but you at least need a title and logo. is it really such a big deal to follow a few simple guidelines folks?
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On 1/31/2019 4:55 PM, myTrueSound wrote:
Hi
Here David, from myTrueSound. We have faced some issues with the review team of App Store. For few days they have been demanding more and more things on our app, asking questions like, the game doesn't work (our answer: it is an audio game, so nothing happens on the screen, just turn the volume up), the visuals are not good enough (our answer: it is an audio game and that is not an important issue, but sure, we will improve the visual aspect of the main menu), and the last why there is not a back button (our answer: the back button is implemented with a double tap with two fingers as in screen reader, which is more handy than a physical back button, but yeah, ok, we will put it). So all those things have affected the launch day. We are really sorry about that. We have worked hard to get it done, but as indie developers and neweys in this field, time took us by surprise. However, we should be up in App Stores hopefully in 1 or 2 days, if they don't discover any new thing. Today we were interviewed by the Blind Abilities podcast, so if you want to listen the whole story, you could listen it there within some few days. On the mean time, if somebody wants to play it on Android, here is the link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myTrueSound.GoldGun
Regards
david
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 23:45, lori duncan <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I don't see it either.

    On 31/01/2019 20:22, Alex Stone wrote:
    Liam, any idea when this is going to be available in the
    App Store? If it is already, I can’t find it.


    On 28 Jan 2019, at 11:51, Liam Erven <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yes, but it’s not in the app store yet.

    *From: *MariaRosa Chapman <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Monday, January 28, 2019 5:50 AM
    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject: *Re: [blind-gamers] Play GoldGun Episode 1 for Free

    HI.

    is the game just called golden gun?

    thanks.

    Maria



        On 28 Jan 2019, at 4:48 am, myTrueSound
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hello dear friends and audio game players!

        Only 4 days left to launch (31st January) and we bring
        you good news!

        We have decided to give Episode 1 of GoldGun
        completely for free, so all of you can enjoy and get a
        feeling of what is coming next. The game (read below
        Disclaimer) can be played on 97 % of working iOS and
        Android mobile devices, and will be available on App
        Store and Google Play. If you can't find it there,
        look for the direct link on our website
        https://www.mytruesound.com/games which will appear
        once the game is on the stores.

        Because the game is free, we hope to reach the 10000
        downloads goal. This is necessary to show the game
        industry and some few investors that there is really
        huge potential for audiogames. Despite you like the
        game or not, if nobody downloads it we won't be able
        to address to them that there are millions of people
        wishing to play audio games.

        For more info about the game, read our Press Kit at
        https://www.mytruesound.com/presskit
        We appreciate you share this info in your social
        network and to your friends.

        Disclaimer:
        1) We are facing some issues with Apple Store we are
        trying to solve at the moment. Somebody there
        basically seems not to understand why an audiogame
        doesn't require visuals, or why the menu is so
        minimalist. We hope this doesn't affect launch date,
        but everything now seems too bureaucratic. Launch on
        Google Play seems to be problem-free.

        2) This is the first episode of the GoldGun game,
        which is scheduled to be composed of 6 more episodes.
        Each episode will be better and longer than the
        previous, and have more playable content. Due to the
        complexity of this type of game, you should expect
        next episode to appear within two months. However, we
        appreciate if you play this one already, so we can
        reach the 10000 downloads goal.

        3) This first episode worked for us as a pilot
        project. It is a bit short (compared to the future
        ones) with about 35 minutes game play. Pilot project
        means that it helped us to understand better the
        technology we use, and to make different tests. That
        being said, we believe the quality of many of its
        parts are not yet where we want them to be. We believe
        you all deserve better. We will work hard to improve
        quality of audio already in the next episode. We
        appreciate You are not very hard with us, and provide
        us with some time to improve those issues.

        4) Next episode has been already written, and the
        story improves pretty well. As many of you know, the
        main character of the game, Soren, suffered an
        accident which turned him blind. There is a reason on
        the game script to why the police department thinks he
        might be able to destroy the GoldGun, but few
        betatesters appointed that blindness is a topic which
        should be avoided on audio games. We understood their
        point and blindness as a topic to talk on our game
        will not be appearing at all on the future episodes.
        We hope you all understand we are trying to constantly
        improve.

        If you read until here, then you know most of what we
        wanted to tell.
        Thanks a lot for liking, sharing, following.

        Best regards
        The team of myTrueSound working on this game
        Mikko Herranen, David Oliva, Jussi Elsilä, Shane
        Wirkes, Joshua Kennedy, Maksim Pokrovskii


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