Heh, that was a typo, was supposed to say 8-core server. and
interestingly enough they do have more. Retired servers are a great
deal if you can get them. A dollar more would have gotten me double the
disk space, (using 500GB now), but I didn't need the space, so being the
cheap skate I am, I opted for less space.
Anyway, moving web servers is easy, just tar the whole thing, move it to
the new server, untar it again, and poof, practically instant move
(assuming of course you have access to programs like tar on the server
of course).
On 6/15/2020 9:37 PM, john wrote:
You got... 96 cores for $36/month?
Is that including the electric bill, because wow I want to know that
hosting provider.
On 6/15/2020 21:17, Travis Siegel wrote:
bah, webhosting is cheap and easy. I actually have two web hosts, I
ue linode.com for softcon.com, (costs me $5 a month), and that's where
all my commercial stuff goes. Then, I found a really nice 98-core
server as a retired server that I pay $36 a month for, which while
expensive, allows me to have an entire server to myself with no
dependence on anyone but myself for it's maintenance. Sure, it isn't
for everyone, but I've been using linux since before it was officially
released as version 1.0 , so maintaining a server running it on my own
is second nature. I keep this one for all the off the wall ideas I
want to test, anything I want to play with that could impact a
commercial server that needs to be up all the time, and the entire
physical machine being mine prevents a lot of the issues I'd otherwise
have when I break something, and services don't work properly until I
get to them. :)
I'm actually contemplating offering game hosting again like I used to
do back in the late 90s when softcon first started, and I had the
machines in my home on a 3MBPS DSL line. That seemed to pay the bills
quite nicely, but I really didn't like all the users that thought I
owed them 24 hours a day of my time just because they were paying me
something each month for using less than 5MB on the server, and didn't
have a clue what they were doing anyhow. I tell you, I don't miss
those days. I do kind of miss the whole being a service provider
thing though, since I like to help folks, and providing hosting at
that time for way less than most providers (including dial-up and web
hosting, as well as game hosting), was something I could do, and
(mostly) enjoyed doing. Anyway, A bit off topic, but If anyone wants
to run their own mud or something, let me know, if there's enough
interest, perhaps I'll offer such services again.
On 6/12/2020 1:04 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I manage a blog with another user.
Last year due to various hacks and security things I decided to see
if I could mod the heck out of the site.
The latest wordpress had some sort of health check and I put all
sorts of errors about security and the like.
While I managed to fix most of them php and sql were out of date and
that needed the host to move on this.
On sql they moved swiftly but on php they kept doing excuses saying
it would cause dammage to their network and others had issues.
In late march round the 28th, there was a 2 day server outage, with
no explanation.
When everything came back up, I was plesently surprised that not only
was everything updated but they had updated to the latest version.
I am unsure how it happened but it did.
It happened with no notification and was utterly random though.
So I am not sure if the messages sent did anything.
So yeah, web hosts hmph.
If it ever gets accessible my plan will be to get a cheap web hosting
plan maybe something with a gb or so of storage and maybe some
bandwidth enough to serve a wordpress blog.
Either that or just make another wordpress blog on wordpress free,
link it with a .tk domain then use keybase.public for file storage.
At least if keybase starts working that is what I may end up doing.
Its just good that it was eventually done
On 12/06/2020 12:29 am, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote:
Believe me John, I've had that same thought over and over during the
years, Haha!
What has finally got me to stick it out during these issues, are
horror stories from others about the web hosts they've used, and
realizing how rare these issues have been over the entire 21-22
years I've used them. It's one of those things like if the power
goes out for 20 minutes someone gets upset, until they stop and
remember it's the first time they've lost power in 3 years. All in
all, it isn't so bad, I just get angry in the moment.
Over the years, I think I've heard similar web host horror stories
about all of the main providers. Now I'm sure someone who sets up a
static page to post some cooking recipes, or a standard blog type of
setup, could probably go forever without any issues on almost any
web host. There's a lot fewer ways the web host could mess them up,
because their site has very few requirements. It could just be me
running across a specific set of stories by coincidence, but I've
developed the belief that any web host I move to is going to have
it's own problems every now and then. All I'd be doing is spending
a ton of work moving to a new place that will be more of the same.
Maybe not the exact same problems, but it'll have some way of
messing up my normal flow every few years or so. Haha, maybe this
is just me trying to avoid all of the work of moving everything over
to a new host.
- Aprone
On Thursday, June 11, 2020, 7:30:06 AM EDT, john
<[email protected]> wrote:
That's... one weird web host.
I know you've had quite a few problems with them in the past. It
might be worth considering switching away, even though it'll cost a
bit of time, because a decent host shouldn't be modifying your
traffic (or having any of the other problems you have, really).
bah, webhosting is cheap and easy. I actually have two web hosts, I
ue linode.com for softcon.com, (costs me $5 a month), and that's where
all my commercial stuff goes. Then, I found a really nice 98-core
server as a retired server that I pay $36 a month for, which while
expensive, allows me to have an entire server to myself with no
dependence on anyone but myself for it's maintenance. Sure, it isn't
for everyone, but I've been using linux since before it was officially
released as version 1.0 , so maintaining a server running it on my own
is second nature. I keep this one for all the off the wall ideas I
want to test, anything I want to play with that could impact a
commercial server that needs to be up all the time, and the entire
physical machine being mine prevents a lot of the issues I'd otherwise
have when I break something, and services don't work properly until I
get to them. :)
I'm actually contemplating offering game hosting again like I used to
do back in the late 90s when softcon first started, and I had the
machines in my home on a 3MBPS DSL line. That seemed to pay the bills
quite nicely, but I really didn't like all the users that thought I
owed them 24 hours a day of my time just because they were paying me
something each month for using less than 5MB on the server, and didn't
have a clue what they were doing anyhow. I tell you, I don't miss
those days. I do kind of miss the whole being a service provider thing
though, since I like to help folks, and providing hosting at that time
for way less than most providers (including dial-up and web hosting,
as well as game hosting), was something I could do, and (mostly)
enjoyed doing. Anyway, A bit off topic, but If anyone wants to run
their own mud or something, let me know, if there's enough interest,
perhaps I'll offer such services again.
On 6/12/2020 1:04 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well to be honest, I manage a blog with another user.
Last year due to various hacks and security things I decided to see
if I could mod the heck out of the site.
The latest wordpress had some sort of health check and I put all
sorts of errors about security and the like.
While I managed to fix most of them php and sql were out of date and
that needed the host to move on this.
On sql they moved swiftly but on php they kept doing excuses saying
it would cause dammage to their network and others had issues.
In late march round the 28th, there was a 2 day server outage, with
no explanation.
When everything came back up, I was plesently surprised that not only
was everything updated but they had updated to the latest version.
I am unsure how it happened but it did.
It happened with no notification and was utterly random though.
So I am not sure if the messages sent did anything.
So yeah, web hosts hmph.
If it ever gets accessible my plan will be to get a cheap web hosting
plan maybe something with a gb or so of storage and maybe some
bandwidth enough to serve a wordpress blog.
Either that or just make another wordpress blog on wordpress free,
link it with a .tk domain then use keybase.public for file storage.
At least if keybase starts working that is what I may end up doing.
Its just good that it was eventually done
On 12/06/2020 12:29 am, Jeremy Kaldobsky wrote:
Believe me John, I've had that same thought over and over during the
years, Haha!
What has finally got me to stick it out during these issues, are
horror stories from others about the web hosts they've used, and
realizing how rare these issues have been over the entire 21-22
years I've used them. It's one of those things like if the power
goes out for 20 minutes someone gets upset, until they stop and
remember it's the first time they've lost power in 3 years. All in
all, it isn't so bad, I just get angry in the moment.
Over the years, I think I've heard similar web host horror stories
about all of the main providers. Now I'm sure someone who sets up a
static page to post some cooking recipes, or a standard blog type of
setup, could probably go forever without any issues on almost any
web host. There's a lot fewer ways the web host could mess them up,
because their site has very few requirements. It could just be me
running across a specific set of stories by coincidence, but I've
developed the belief that any web host I move to is going to have
it's own problems every now and then. All I'd be doing is spending
a ton of work moving to a new place that will be more of the same.
Maybe not the exact same problems, but it'll have some way of
messing up my normal flow every few years or so. Haha, maybe this
is just me trying to avoid all of the work of moving everything over
to a new host.
- Aprone
On Thursday, June 11, 2020, 7:30:06 AM EDT, john
<[email protected]> wrote:
That's... one weird web host.
I know you've had quite a few problems with them in the past. It
might be worth considering switching away, even though it'll cost a
bit of time, because a decent host shouldn't be modifying your
traffic (or having any of the other problems you have, really).
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