I see yore point in that regard Justin and I would not learn a screen reader just to play one game. A lot of things that would make me decide weather to fund this is if it’s lightly to have Mac support. I am a full time Mac user and only use windows for work and to sometimes play games or convert books etc. I would be less lightly to fund this if Mac is not going to be considered or at least IOS.
Best wishes. Ian Mcnamara > On 2 Jul 2020, at 19:26, Ian McNamara via groups.io > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Like Scott I do not have any say on the projects outcome etc as it’s not > something I am sure weather I would fund myself as these types of games are > not usually my chosen types. > > Best wishes > > Ian Mcnamara > >> On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:26, Jack Falejjczyk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> They did say specifically that part of their accessibility budget >> would involve testing with premium screen readers. So if you want JAWS >> support, it kind of does have to be funded first. I worry that JAWS as >> a consumer product will fizzle out sooner rather than later. Once >> Windows 10 Arm hits, JAWS is done for. And FS is applying JAWS, or >> versions of JAWS, to non-consumer settings such as >> shopping/informational keyoscs. So do keep in mind that there is legit >> reason (not personal beef with the product on my part) to believe that >> JAWS for individuals is has a good chance of fizzling out whether >> Windows 10 Arm comes to take it away or not, so that may or may not be >> a factor in whether or not they decide to devote time and resources >> into making the game fullproof with JAWS. To be clear, again, I do not >> intend to start a screen reader fewd over this, but just presenting >> the reality for what it is. Risks and challenges as any Kickstarter >> campaign will no doubt mention. >> Have a good day. >> >> On 7/2/20, Scott Chesworth <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Well assuming your point was support for "usual screen readers", then >>> yeah, it kinda is. NVDA has wider adoption than JAWS nowadays (see >>> recent webAIM surveys). >>> >>> I think it's also worth keeping in mind at times like these that the >>> JAWS ULA precludes a demo version of JAWS being used to develop or >>> test for accessibility, which creates a chicken and egg situation. >>> Supporting JAWS is an expensive endeavour because of the terms of its >>> ULA. If none of the users who want JAWS support step up to fund it (at >>> least in part), how does that expense get covered? >>> >>> I'm honestly not attempting to shame you into funding the project >>> Justin, I've got no stake in the outcome either way, just pointing out >>> how the land lies. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 7/2/20, Justin Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> That's not really the point though. >>>> >>>> On 7/2/20, Ian McNamara <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> NVDA is as good as JAWS in a lot of ways now, it’s recognised as a fully >>>>> fledged screen reader. I am an accessibility tester and NVDA is one of >>>>> the >>>>> screen readers I am required to test with. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes. >>>>> >>>>> Ian Mcnamara >>>>> >>>>>> On 2 Jul 2020, at 17:21, Justin Jones <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm out then. I wish them luck, but until they can support the usual >>>>>> screen-readers I cannot, in good conscience, support them. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Justin >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/2/20, Robert Kingett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> You have to use NVDA. Not JAWS, for now. They told me through FB >>>>>>> Messenger >>>>>>> that JAWS was giving them huge amounts of problems. Use NVDA for now, >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> JAWS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> (254) 624-9155 >>>>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A. >>>> [email protected] >>>> (254) 624-9155 >>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#122601): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/122601 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/75248850/21656 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
