Thank you so much for sharing will add this to my notes. I look forward to them fixing the menus that still need work, but I am so thrilled about what we have so far.
On 10/9/23, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Downloading this game as I read this! > Haylie > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Cara > Quinn > Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 3:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Cara Quinn <[email protected]> > Subject: [blind-gamers] Forza Motorsport - Painting a car > > Hi All, > > Hope everyone is awesome! > > For those who may be interested, I wanted to discuss painting your cars, > since it is accessible to a large degree in the new Forza Motorsport. > > I know this won’t be for everyone but I thought there may be some folks here > (like myself) who might enjoy doing this so I thought I would detail the > process here. Just as a note, this is a pretty long email so if you’re not > interested, you may wish to skip this one. :) > > There are actually two ways of painting a car; when you buy the car and also > when / if you would like to re-paint a car you’ve already purchased. > > First off, when you purchase a car in the game, you will come to a screen > which has a few tabs on it. By default, you will be in the Manufacturer > Colors tab. There are three other tabs on this page which you can get to, > using the left / right shoulder buttons on the controller. These tabs are > actually spoken but it was not obvious to me at first that they were there, > without first exploring the screen using the shoulder buttons so I thought I > would save others the trouble. :) > > These tabs in order from left to right, are: > > Normal Colors > > Manufacturer Colors > > Special Colors > > Previous Colors > > The good news is that all of the options in all of these tabs are spoken or > indicated by sound. The better news is that Both the Normal Colors and > Special Colors menus allow us to completely and accessibly customize a given > selected color. So this is more accessibility than I’ve ever seen for car > design in a main-stream game like this. > > From what I’ve seen so far, the very first option to the left in each tab, > is what ever the current car color is. This option is not spoken but you > will hear the click when you select it and as I’ve said, it is the option > all the way to the left. So each menu in each of the four tabs above will > have this option. > > I’ll describe each menu in detail below, eliminating this left-most option. > > When in the Normal Colors menu, you will have a list of colors from left to > right, which are all spoken, along with their saturation values. You can > move from color to color using the D-Pad left and right. If you’d like to > change the saturation (or intensity) of a color, simply use D-Pad up or down > and the saturation level will be spoken. This scale goes from 0 to 9. 0 is > basically white and 9 is the most intense version of the selected color > possible. > > to paint your car in the selected color, simply press the A button. It just > doesn’t get much easier! lol! :) > > If you want to choose another color, just select one and adjust it the way > you like. > > Once you’ve pressed the A button to apply the paint to your car, I believe > the View button will give you save options or you will also be asked to save > your work if you try to leave the menu. > > I’m going to skip ahead now to the Special Colors menu, and I’ll explain why > later. > > This menu is also laid out from left to right, and shows a list of colors > you can move through, using D-Pad left and right. > > A lot of these colors are obvious from the spoken description and are simple > to apply to your car just by selecting a color and pressing the A button as > above. > > However, a few others are not. So I’ll describe these below. > > The first few options on the left of this menu show paint types such as Mat > and Semi-Gloss. You’ll notice though, that no color is described. This is > because these are types of paint rather than actual colors. So these can be > any color. > > You choose these colors by changing the hue, saturation and brightness. The > X button should get you into this menu. I say should because some of the > colors in this Special Colors tab have other options, which I will discuss a > little further below. > > Anyway, for now, pressing the X button will allow you to create a color > using your D-Pad. > > D-Pad up and down will switch between Hue, Saturation and Brightness. D-Pad > left and right will change the value for each of these parameters. All of > this is spoken and you will see a number for each parameter. So you might > hear, Hue, 42., which would be somewhere between green and yellow. I.E. > something close to Chartreuse. > > Essentially, 0 would be red, and 100 would be Violet or purple. I’ll need to > look at this again as they might allow us to go all the way up to white or > chrome in this parameter but usually this scale goes from red to violet. So > you would be moving through the rainbow going from red, to orange, to > yellow, to green, through blue and indigo and then finally to violet. > > the scale may not be even but essentially this is how you would work with > hue. > > The Saturation and Brightness parameters work together. As mentioned before, > the saturation is like the intensity of a color, so what ever color you > create with the hue, you then set its intensity using saturation. As before, > 0 is the least intense color and 100 is the most. > > The brightness also goes from 0 to 100 and represents essentially how much > light the color reflects. So in this case, 0 would essentially be black and > 100 would essentially be white. > > So if you wanted a very bright vibrant blue for example, you could set the > hue somewhere around 65 or 70, the saturation in the 80s and brightness in > the 70s or 80s. > > Once you’ve got a color you want, then press the A button to apply it to > your car, or you will lose it when you change colors. > > These settings all depend on the color you choose and are absolutely not an > exact science as colors are somewhat subjective, and these scales move > smoothly in their range so even though all of these menus are accessible, if > you really want a particular color without sighted feedback, it is much > easier to just go ahead and find a definite color in this menu or choose the > Normal colors tab and get a color from there. > > Having said all this, there are a lot of colors in this menu that are very > cool and are definite such as Chrome, various camouflage, polished copper > and steel, and prisma black and white. These last two colors are black or > white with a reflective quality to them which makes your car reflect all > colors in the spectrum. They are way cool! :) > > There are a lot of colors in this menu and it’s great that they are all > spoken. > > Just to cover an earlier point, while I haven’t checked out all options for > each of these colors, some of the paint types such as metal-flake and > two-tone paints allow you to change both colors. So the X button would bring > you to the menus we discussed above with Hue, Saturation and brightness for > one color of a two-tone paint job and the Y button would bring you to the > Hue, Saturation and Brightness for the other color of the two-tone paint > job. The same applies to Metal-Flake. The X button allows you to adjust the > paint color and the Y button allows you to adjust the metal flake color. > > Press A to apply each color before you change to the other option. For > example, press A when you adjust your color and then press Y to choose your > metal flake color and press A again to set the metal flake color. This way > if you change your paint color again, you will keep your metal flake color. > > Hope this makes sense. :) I found this one out the hard way. lol! > > Anyway, it’s pretty amazing what is possible here. I’m amazed that all of > this is spoken! > > Ok, so now to the tabs I have skipped above. I started with the most > accessible menus > > The menu in the Manufacturer Colors tab is the least accessible. All options > are spoken but each option is only distinguished by number, since these > options are completely different with each car. So You can choose an option > here but you won’t be told the exact color as you are with the other menus. > > Lastly, the Previous Colors menu is also spoken but will simply describe the > name of each previous paint you’ve applied to the current car. So in this > case, If you’ve saved a livery, you will see that file name. If you have > just been experimenting with different paint options, you will see the name > of the paint. This may show a specific color or may only show a paint type. > So you may or may not know the specific color from this menu. > > At least this has been my experience so far with this menu. I’ll detail more > on this one as I learn more about the way it behaves. > > So far, we’ve discussed painting a car when you buy it. What if you want to > re-paint a car that you’ve already purchased? > > At first glance, it looks like this option is not accessible, but it > actually is. I’ll discuss this below. > > When you’re at the Forza Motorsport main menu, you’ll see the Cars menu. > > Entering this menu will show several options including designs and paint. > > For now, I’m going to share another way to do this. If you go to your cars > and choose one by pressing the A button on it, you should see an option to > paint it. Press A on this. > > This should bring up the Livery Editor which says that it is not narrated. > There is simply a menu here which you can move through from left to right > with the D-Pad. > > here are the options from left to right: > > Apply decals > > Paint > > Erase paint/decals > > My designs > > Vinyl group editor > > Vinyl group select > > Car select > > Find designs > > there are a few options here which you might be interested in, such as > choosing another car, erasing the paints and / or decals from the current > car or looking through your own designs. For now, if we choose the Paint > option, we will get another menu which says it is not narrated, but again > this is a simple left to right menu. > > Here are the options from left to right: > > Paint body > > Paint hood > > Paint mirror > > Paint wing > > Paint wheels > > Paint brakes > > Tint windows > > If we choose the Paint Body option, this gets us right back to the page > we’ve been discussing above where you can paint your entire car body just > like you can at purchase. So this would be the option to choose unless you > want to paint a specific part of your car. This page has the usual four tabs > as we’ve discussed before. Normal Colors, Manufacturer Colors, Special > Colors and Previous Colors. > > From here you can choose a new color and repaint your car. > > I know this is a lot to take in but I hope for those who are interested in > this, that it’s been helpful. I was pretty shocked to see the accessibility > here despite the couple of menus that were skipped. I got back to the paint > options by accident at first, just by exploring, and then a friend was kind > enough to copy the menu options. Right now I’ve only explored the paint > option and finding other folks designs (which is also somewhat accessible, > depending on how well they have named their design) but I will eventually > look at the other menus such as tinting the windows and painting the brakes > and rims. > > Hope this helps and happy painting! > > Have a great day! > > Cheers! > > Cara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Lenron Brown Skype: ron.brown762 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#126625): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/126625 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/101859913/21656 Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
