Thanks for the awesome discovery. Love how detailed this game is. On 10/11/23, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi again All, > > Just replying to myself here to update a couple of things I said in my last > note. > > Also, thanks for your replies so far. Glad this is helpful! :) > > Ok, so in my last note, I said that when you choose a car by pressing the A > button, you will see a Paint Car option. I missed a menu. My apologies. > You’ll actually see a designs and paint option which you would click on > first. Then you will see the Paint Car option. From there, everything is > like I mentioned in my note. So hopefully this helps. > > I also found a new feature that I hadn’t seen before. > > when you’re on the screen where you can choose paint colors, and your on the > Normal Colors tab, if you select a color there with the D-Pad and press the > X button, you will actually bring up the specific settings for that color. > So you would see Hue, Saturation and Brightness with all of the settings for > the color you have selected. For example, if you select Yellow with D-Pad > left / right and set a saturation with D-Pad up / down, and press X, you > will see something like Hue 16, Saturation 100 and Brightness 52, depending > on the specific saturation value you just set. Hope this makes sense. It’s > way easier than it sounds. :) > > This is very cool for finding a specific spoken color and being able to make > slight adjustments to it without sighted assistance. > > I was super happy to find this! :) > > Anyway, hope this helps and I’ll write again when / if I find more features. > :) > > Have a terrific day / evening! > > > Cheers! > > Cara > > > > > >> On Oct 9, 2023, at 1:17 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Hope everyone is awesome! >> >> For those who may be interested, I wanted to discuss painting your cars, >> since it is accessible to a large degree in the new Forza Motorsport. >> >> I know this won’t be for everyone but I thought there may be some folks >> here (like myself) who might enjoy doing this so I thought I would detail >> the process here. Just as a note, this is a pretty long email so if you’re >> not interested, you may wish to skip this one. :) >> >> There are actually two ways of painting a car; when you buy the car and >> also when / if you would like to re-paint a car you’ve already purchased. >> >> First off, when you purchase a car in the game, you will come to a screen >> which has a few tabs on it. By default, you will be in the Manufacturer >> Colors tab. There are three other tabs on this page which you can get to, >> using the left / right shoulder buttons on the controller. These tabs are >> actually spoken but it was not obvious to me at first that they were >> there, without first exploring the screen using the shoulder buttons so I >> thought I would save others the trouble. :) >> >> These tabs in order from left to right, are: >> >> Normal Colors >> >> Manufacturer Colors >> >> Special Colors >> >> Previous Colors >> >> The good news is that all of the options in all of these tabs are spoken >> or indicated by sound. The better news is that Both the Normal Colors and >> Special Colors menus allow us to completely and accessibly customize a >> given selected color. So this is more accessibility than I’ve ever seen >> for car design in a main-stream game like this. >> >> From what I’ve seen so far, the very first option to the left in each tab, >> is what ever the current car color is. This option is not spoken but you >> will hear the click when you select it and as I’ve said, it is the option >> all the way to the left. So each menu in each of the four tabs above will >> have this option. >> >> I’ll describe each menu in detail below, eliminating this left-most >> option. >> >> When in the Normal Colors menu, you will have a list of colors from left >> to right, which are all spoken, along with their saturation values. You >> can move from color to color using the D-Pad left and right. If you’d like >> to change the saturation (or intensity) of a color, simply use D-Pad up or >> down and the saturation level will be spoken. This scale goes from 0 to 9. >> 0 is basically white and 9 is the most intense version of the selected >> color possible. >> >> to paint your car in the selected color, simply press the A button. It >> just doesn’t get much easier! lol! :) >> >> If you want to choose another color, just select one and adjust it the way >> you like. >> >> Once you’ve pressed the A button to apply the paint to your car, I believe >> the View button will give you save options or you will also be asked to >> save your work if you try to leave the menu. >> >> I’m going to skip ahead now to the Special Colors menu, and I’ll explain >> why later. >> >> This menu is also laid out from left to right, and shows a list of colors >> you can move through, using D-Pad left and right. >> >> A lot of these colors are obvious from the spoken description and are >> simple to apply to your car just by selecting a color and pressing the A >> button as above. >> >> However, a few others are not. So I’ll describe these below. >> >> The first few options on the left of this menu show paint types such as >> Mat and Semi-Gloss. You’ll notice though, that no color is described. This >> is because these are types of paint rather than actual colors. So these >> can be any color. >> >> You choose these colors by changing the hue, saturation and brightness. >> The X button should get you into this menu. I say should because some of >> the colors in this Special Colors tab have other options, which I will >> discuss a little further below. >> >> Anyway, for now, pressing the X button will allow you to create a color >> using your D-Pad. >> >> D-Pad up and down will switch between Hue, Saturation and Brightness. >> D-Pad left and right will change the value for each of these parameters. >> All of this is spoken and you will see a number for each parameter. So you >> might hear, Hue, 42., which would be somewhere between green and yellow. >> I.E. something close to Chartreuse. >> >> Essentially, 0 would be red, and 100 would be Violet or purple. I’ll need >> to look at this again as they might allow us to go all the way up to white >> or chrome in this parameter but usually this scale goes from red to >> violet. So you would be moving through the rainbow going from red, to >> orange, to yellow, to green, through blue and indigo and then finally to >> violet. >> >> the scale may not be even but essentially this is how you would work with >> hue. >> >> The Saturation and Brightness parameters work together. As mentioned >> before, the saturation is like the intensity of a color, so what ever >> color you create with the hue, you then set its intensity using >> saturation. As before, 0 is the least intense color and 100 is the most. >> >> The brightness also goes from 0 to 100 and represents essentially how much >> light the color reflects. So in this case, 0 would essentially be black >> and 100 would essentially be white. >> >> So if you wanted a very bright vibrant blue for example, you could set the >> hue somewhere around 65 or 70, the saturation in the 80s and brightness in >> the 70s or 80s. >> >> Once you’ve got a color you want, then press the A button to apply it to >> your car, or you will lose it when you change colors. >> >> These settings all depend on the color you choose and are absolutely not >> an exact science as colors are somewhat subjective, and these scales move >> smoothly in their range so even though all of these menus are accessible, >> if you really want a particular color without sighted feedback, it is much >> easier to just go ahead and find a definite color in this menu or choose >> the Normal colors tab and get a color from there. >> >> Having said all this, there are a lot of colors in this menu that are very >> cool and are definite such as Chrome, various camouflage, polished copper >> and steel, and prisma black and white. These last two colors are black or >> white with a reflective quality to them which makes your car reflect all >> colors in the spectrum. They are way cool! :) >> >> There are a lot of colors in this menu and it’s great that they are all >> spoken. >> >> Just to cover an earlier point, while I haven’t checked out all options >> for each of these colors, some of the paint types such as metal-flake and >> two-tone paints allow you to change both colors. So the X button would >> bring you to the menus we discussed above with Hue, Saturation and >> brightness for one color of a two-tone paint job and the Y button would >> bring you to the Hue, Saturation and Brightness for the other color of the >> two-tone paint job. The same applies to Metal-Flake. The X button allows >> you to adjust the paint color and the Y button allows you to adjust the >> metal flake color. >> >> Press A to apply each color before you change to the other option. For >> example, press A when you adjust your color and then press Y to choose >> your metal flake color and press A again to set the metal flake color. >> This way if you change your paint color again, you will keep your metal >> flake color. >> >> Hope this makes sense. :) I found this one out the hard way. lol! >> >> Anyway, it’s pretty amazing what is possible here. I’m amazed that all of >> this is spoken! >> >> Ok, so now to the tabs I have skipped above. I started with the most >> accessible menus >> >> The menu in the Manufacturer Colors tab is the least accessible. All >> options are spoken but each option is only distinguished by number, since >> these options are completely different with each car. So You can choose an >> option here but you won’t be told the exact color as you are with the >> other menus. >> >> Lastly, the Previous Colors menu is also spoken but will simply describe >> the name of each previous paint you’ve applied to the current car. So in >> this case, If you’ve saved a livery, you will see that file name. If you >> have just been experimenting with different paint options, you will see >> the name of the paint. This may show a specific color or may only show a >> paint type. So you may or may not know the specific color from this menu. >> >> At least this has been my experience so far with this menu. I’ll detail >> more on this one as I learn more about the way it behaves. >> >> So far, we’ve discussed painting a car when you buy it. What if you want >> to re-paint a car that you’ve already purchased? >> >> At first glance, it looks like this option is not accessible, but it >> actually is. I’ll discuss this below. >> >> When you’re at the Forza Motorsport main menu, you’ll see the Cars menu. >> >> Entering this menu will show several options including designs and paint. >> >> For now, I’m going to share another way to do this. If you go to your cars >> and choose one by pressing the A button on it, you should see an option to >> paint it. Press A on this. >> >> This should bring up the Livery Editor which says that it is not narrated. >> There is simply a menu here which you can move through from left to right >> with the D-Pad. >> >> here are the options from left to right: >> >> Apply decals >> >> Paint >> >> Erase paint/decals >> >> My designs >> >> Vinyl group editor >> >> Vinyl group select >> >> Car select >> >> Find designs >> >> there are a few options here which you might be interested in, such as >> choosing another car, erasing the paints and / or decals from the current >> car or looking through your own designs. For now, if we choose the Paint >> option, we will get another menu which says it is not narrated, but again >> this is a simple left to right menu. >> >> Here are the options from left to right: >> >> Paint body >> >> Paint hood >> >> Paint mirror >> >> Paint wing >> >> Paint wheels >> >> Paint brakes >> >> Tint windows >> >> If we choose the Paint Body option, this gets us right back to the page >> we’ve been discussing above where you can paint your entire car body just >> like you can at purchase. So this would be the option to choose unless you >> want to paint a specific part of your car. This page has the usual four >> tabs as we’ve discussed before. Normal Colors, Manufacturer Colors, >> Special Colors and Previous Colors. >> >> From here you can choose a new color and repaint your car. >> >> I know this is a lot to take in but I hope for those who are interested in >> this, that it’s been helpful. I was pretty shocked to see the >> accessibility here despite the couple of menus that were skipped. I got >> back to the paint options by accident at first, just by exploring, and >> then a friend was kind enough to copy the menu options. Right now I’ve >> only explored the paint option and finding other folks designs (which is >> also somewhat accessible, depending on how well they have named their >> design) but I will eventually look at the other menus such as tinting the >> windows and painting the brakes and rims. >> >> Hope this helps and happy painting! >> >> Have a great day! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
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