The dymo tape solution is what I meant when I suggested brailling the 
sleeves. Sure you run the risk of mixing up your cards, but as long as 
you're careful, it shouldn't be a problem.

HTH,
Vapour


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lorana Chanicut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings


> I've never actually tried Brailling the card sleeves.  The sleeves I've 
> seen
> looked flimsy enough that they wouldn't hold the Braille for long.  The
> other problem, of course, is that if someone took the cards out of the
> sleeves, not realizing the significance of the Braille, what was in the
> sleeve might no longer be correct.
>
> I know you said to put the cards in the sleeves, and then Braille them. 
> The
> problem with this is that I braille with a slate and stylus, and that 
> might
> prove difficult to do, and would still damage the card.  I think, though,
> that you just meant to braille the sleeves, and then put the cards in 
> them,
> which makes sense, if you can find good sleeves.
>
> The sleeves alone, at least the ones I've seen, are not durable enough.
>
> Finding an excellent solution like that would be preferable, though, to
> Brailling the card.  When I started collecting, just after Magic came out
> back in 1992, I think, I had no idea how valuable the cards would be.  I 
> was
> at a science fiction convention and someone offered their entire 
> alpha/beta
> card set for $100.  I bought it, and promptly Brailled all the cards, so I
> could play.  Well, that set had one of each of the mox cards, which, at 
> the
> height of collecting, turned out to be very valuable indeed.  Thus, if I 
> can
> find the right card sleeves, I'd be happy to try it.  I wonder how dymo 
> tape
> attached to the card sleeves would do.  It would still leave you with the
> problem that if someone took the cards out of the card sleeves and
> rearranged them, the blind player would never know.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions, and I'd be happy to continue chatting, because
> I'd like to work out a way to do this right, for Mike, myself and anyone
> else I Braille cards for.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vapour Wiseblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:14 AM
> Subject: Re: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings
>
>
>>    I would suggest, for those cards that have a collectable aspect to
>> them,
>> that you put the cards in protective sleeves, then braille the sleeves.
>>
>> -Vapour
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Lorana Chanicut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings
>>
>>
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> There are several card games I play that are definitely playable in
>>> person.
>>> You do need to Braille the cards, as the games are commercially
>>> available,
>>> and designed for sighted people.  For the most part, this can be easily
>>> corrected with a slate and stylus.
>>>
>>> Quiddler and Palabra:  These are word games that use decks of cards. 
>>> All
>>> the information you need can be brailled on the card.  I did these
>>> myself,
>>> and we play successfully about once a week.
>>>
>>> Magic the Gathering:  This game is similar to Legend of the 5 Rings
>>> (commonly abbreviated L5R).  With Magic the Gathering, there is too much
>>> information to be written on the card.  You would either need to keep
>>> Braille reference sheets or the descriptions in your notetaker, or you
>>> would
>>> have to have an excellent memory.
>>>
>>> There are lots and lots of L5R cards out there.  You would need to
>>> determine
>>> which of the sets you wanted to start with, if you haven't already.  I'm
>>> willing to Braille them by hand, but I'm not a professional, just a 
>>> gamer
>>> who has been Brailling games for the past twenty years.  We would need 
>>> to
>>> discuss how you wanted the information presented on the cards.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you're interested, or if you found someone else to 
>>> Braille
>>> the cards for you.
>>>
>>> Have a great holiday,
>>>
>>> Lora
>>>
>>> PS:  There are many other card games I've Brailled, as well as
>>> commercially
>>> available board games.  Talisman, which is a board game, is one of my
>>> favorites, as is Cosmic Encounter, which is a combination of card and
>>> board
>>> game.  I'd be happy to chat about any of these.  I keep an eye on the 
>>> new
>>> games that come out each year, and I have a fairly large collection of
>>> games
>>> I've Brailled.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mike Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:36 PM
>>> Subject: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am looking for a place that will braille Legend of the Five Rings 
>>>>game.
>>>>It is a card game, and some of my co workers say that it hasbeen done,
>>>>and
>>>>that there is a blind player who is very good.
>>>> Again, the name of the game is Legend of the Five Rings, and I want to
>>>> start playing.
>>>> Also, does any one else know of any other rpg games, or card games that
>>>> is
>>>> accessible? Either on line, or a game one plays in person?
>>>> THanks a who lot.
>>>>
>>>> ----------
>>>> "DAMN MY CHARISMA"
>>>> Michael A. Babcock is sending this message.
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Is his e-mail address
>>>> All respect goes to those who want to and do help him make his life
>>>> funnier and easier. Especially Jessica.
>>>> You can call him at:
>>>> 541-327-3344(home)
>>>> And at:
>>>> 541-223-3501 (Cell)
>>>> "And can you offer me proof of your existence? How can you, when 
>>>> neither
>>>> modern science, nor philosophy can explain what life is?" Ghost In the
>>>> Shell
>>>> "Men have always fought each other, have always created chaos; that's
>>>> familiar and safe. They always know where they are in those
>>>> circumstances.
>>>> But, to
>>>> Hazardly step into the unknown and love one another is far to risky for
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