sounds like a good idea; but what would you put?
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vapour Wiseblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings


>    The dymo tape solution is what I meant when I suggested brailling the
> sleeves. Sure you run the risk of mixing up your cards, but as long as
> you're careful, it shouldn't be a problem.
>
> HTH,
> Vapour
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lorana Chanicut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 6:53 AM
> Subject: Re: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings
>
>
>> I've never actually tried Brailling the card sleeves.  The sleeves I've
>> seen
>> looked flimsy enough that they wouldn't hold the Braille for long.  The
>> other problem, of course, is that if someone took the cards out of the
>> sleeves, not realizing the significance of the Braille, what was in the
>> sleeve might no longer be correct.
>>
>> I know you said to put the cards in the sleeves, and then Braille them.
>> The
>> problem with this is that I braille with a slate and stylus, and that
>> might
>> prove difficult to do, and would still damage the card.  I think, though,
>> that you just meant to braille the sleeves, and then put the cards in
>> them,
>> which makes sense, if you can find good sleeves.
>>
>> The sleeves alone, at least the ones I've seen, are not durable enough.
>>
>> Finding an excellent solution like that would be preferable, though, to
>> Brailling the card.  When I started collecting, just after Magic came out
>> back in 1992, I think, I had no idea how valuable the cards would be.  I
>> was
>> at a science fiction convention and someone offered their entire
>> alpha/beta
>> card set for $100.  I bought it, and promptly Brailled all the cards, so 
>> I
>> could play.  Well, that set had one of each of the mox cards, which, at
>> the
>> height of collecting, turned out to be very valuable indeed.  Thus, if I
>> can
>> find the right card sleeves, I'd be happy to try it.  I wonder how dymo
>> tape
>> attached to the card sleeves would do.  It would still leave you with the
>> problem that if someone took the cards out of the card sleeves and
>> rearranged them, the blind player would never know.
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions, and I'd be happy to continue chatting, 
>> because
>> I'd like to work out a way to do this right, for Mike, myself and anyone
>> else I Braille cards for.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Vapour Wiseblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 3:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings
>>
>>
>>>    I would suggest, for those cards that have a collectable aspect to
>>> them,
>>> that you put the cards in protective sleeves, then braille the sleeves.
>>>
>>> -Vapour
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Lorana Chanicut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 7:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> There are several card games I play that are definitely playable in
>>>> person.
>>>> You do need to Braille the cards, as the games are commercially
>>>> available,
>>>> and designed for sighted people.  For the most part, this can be easily
>>>> corrected with a slate and stylus.
>>>>
>>>> Quiddler and Palabra:  These are word games that use decks of cards.
>>>> All
>>>> the information you need can be brailled on the card.  I did these
>>>> myself,
>>>> and we play successfully about once a week.
>>>>
>>>> Magic the Gathering:  This game is similar to Legend of the 5 Rings
>>>> (commonly abbreviated L5R).  With Magic the Gathering, there is too 
>>>> much
>>>> information to be written on the card.  You would either need to keep
>>>> Braille reference sheets or the descriptions in your notetaker, or you
>>>> would
>>>> have to have an excellent memory.
>>>>
>>>> There are lots and lots of L5R cards out there.  You would need to
>>>> determine
>>>> which of the sets you wanted to start with, if you haven't already. 
>>>> I'm
>>>> willing to Braille them by hand, but I'm not a professional, just a
>>>> gamer
>>>> who has been Brailling games for the past twenty years.  We would need
>>>> to
>>>> discuss how you wanted the information presented on the cards.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you're interested, or if you found someone else to
>>>> Braille
>>>> the cards for you.
>>>>
>>>> Have a great holiday,
>>>>
>>>> Lora
>>>>
>>>> PS:  There are many other card games I've Brailled, as well as
>>>> commercially
>>>> available board games.  Talisman, which is a board game, is one of my
>>>> favorites, as is Cosmic Encounter, which is a combination of card and
>>>> board
>>>> game.  I'd be happy to chat about any of these.  I keep an eye on the
>>>> new
>>>> games that come out each year, and I have a fairly large collection of
>>>> games
>>>> I've Brailled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Mike Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:36 PM
>>>> Subject: audyssey: Legend of the Five Rings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am looking for a place that will braille Legend of the Five Rings
>>>>>game.
>>>>>It is a card game, and some of my co workers say that it hasbeen done,
>>>>>and
>>>>>that there is a blind player who is very good.
>>>>> Again, the name of the game is Legend of the Five Rings, and I want to
>>>>> start playing.
>>>>> Also, does any one else know of any other rpg games, or card games 
>>>>> that
>>>>> is
>>>>> accessible? Either on line, or a game one plays in person?
>>>>> THanks a who lot.
>>>>>
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