Some games for the PC like GTA can be rented, but you don't even have to go that far. Just look for walkthroughs. They will describe every stage of the game, what you see, what to do, and so on. Gta's walkthrough is more like reading a book than a walkthrough because there's so much involved. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:41 PM Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry.
> Hi, Yohandy. > I know we are straying a bit from Sarah, but i did want to make a couple > of points that explains the situation I as a game dev and others are in. > We already know that 99% of the games for the game consoles are not > accessible, and the only way I could even explore the games that are in > mainstream games would be to purchase a console, buy or rent the titles, > and then try and get a feel for how to adapt it to an accessible format. > I know there are brave VI gamers that go ahead and do it, but I > personally can't see paying for a game I know I will have serious > dificulty with. > Second, if we are comparing the mainstream games as our final goal then > accessible gaming has a ways to go. For example some voice acting can > be obtained free from volinteers, but for anything super pro level then > a game dev may have to pay for the higher quality acting. > > > > > > Yohandy wrote: >> I actually found it a bit like pack man. >> The ghosts, the navigation system, etc. But it does have its differences. >> What we need, is something similar to what the sighted play. A grand >> theft >> auto style game for the blind. now that would rock. Or how about a super >> mario brothers, or sonic style game? >> I know we have super liam, but for those who play or have played super >> mario >> and sonic, you can tell that it is completely different. >> Perhaps the game developers should take a closer look at some of the new >> games being released for the consoles? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:19 AM >> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry. >> >> >> >>> Hmmm... I know there is a common demand for something new in the >>> comunity, but there really is dificulty in coming up with origenality >>> for every new game. Not having tested Sarah for myself I don't know what >>> areas you would feel are to much like SOD, but there are often games in >>> the sighted gaming world that are similar in nature. What sets them >>> apart is a different storyline, different graphics, and sometimes >>> different effects. >>> For example, we now have GMA Games GTC. If another game developer is >>> wanting to make a tank game the next dev would be hard pressed to make >>> the new game so different as to make it sell. Else the customer base >>> winds up saying, "I have GTC I don't need another tank game. i want >>> something new." >>> My question is what can we as developers do differently that adds >>> origenality to an old idea to make a game so that it sells. Phil >>> certainly has a different storyline for Sarah, but is it effects, the >>> castle layout, or what is it exactly that draws you to say it is like >>> SOD? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve wrote: >>> >>>> Now I personally found it to be way to much like Shades Of Doom, >>>> I want to play something new, >>>> not just something with new items in it. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Yohandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 5:06 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>> Wizardry. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I quite agree. Simply spectacular. Will I be getting it? Heh, of >>>>> course >>>>> I >>>>> will. *grins* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Mich Verrier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:46 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>> Wizardry. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> hi> cool indead. and hat's off to you for creating it. >>>>>> From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "djc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:49 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re[2]: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Simply Brilliant Phil. I've just learned about this game and have >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> installed it but the help sounds gives me an error. I'm just >>>>>>> wondering >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> that's it's expected behavier at this stage? The game itself runs >>>>>>> fine >>>>>>> here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 1/1/2006 at 8:50 PM Phil Vlasak wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Charles, >>>>>>>> You need to save as instead of hitting enter on it, then give the >>>>>>>> path >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the sarah folder in your program files. >>>>>>>> If it works you will be asked if you want to replace the file, hit >>>>>>>> y. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Smiles, >>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:55 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phil: I used your link to download the sound file replacement. >>>>>>>>> Rather >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> getting a downloadable file, it opened up what appears to be a >>>>>>>>> text >>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>> that I can read. Any thoughts? Thanks. >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:43 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Sky, >>>>>>>>>> I think you might have acedentally renamed the file when you were >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> copying >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> soundhelp.dm is just a text file that lists the sounds that >>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> played >>>>>>>>>> in the sound help function. >>>>>>>>>> If you rename the file, >>>>>>>>>> soundhelp.dm >>>>>>>>>> then copy it into >>>>>>>>>> the folder named >>>>>>>>>> Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry >>>>>>>>>> which is inside the folder named >>>>>>>>>> c:\program files >>>>>>>>>> You should get windows saying over write y or n >>>>>>>>>> hit y >>>>>>>>>> Then try it out by running the game and hitting the sound help >>>>>>>>>> item. >>>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Sky Taylor Mundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:50 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> oh, replying to my own message, phil, it didn't actually >>>>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bought >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> of a page with the name of the sounds on it now what do I do to >>>>>>>>>>> copy >>>>>>>>>>> them? >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Sky Taylor Mundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> how do you copy it into the program files\sarah folder? I tried >>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>> gave me the error the same one jason got. >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:06 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a mistake in compiling the Sarah game and messed up the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> sound >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> file. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since it is only 2 kb it is not worth creating an installation >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> patch. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you can all download it from the below link or from the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sarah >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> page >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>> my web site. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Then copy it into the Sarah folder in your program files >>>>>>>>>>>>> folder. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pcsgames.net/soundhelp.dm >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that is why I call it a public beta! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 1:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The game is great. I found a bug though. When attempting to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> review >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> game >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds, it gives me a type mismatch and then two "subscript >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> range" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages and then leaves me in a menu with nothing in it. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it with the left arrow or the ESC key though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 11:02 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wizardry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I promised everyone a public demo in 2005 of Sarah and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Castle >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Witchcraft and Wizardry, so now it is up on my web site and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:59 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A public beta means that a partial version of the game will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all people to try out for free. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not sell the game until it is finished. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The game is written using the GMA game engine so it will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> similar >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shades of Doom. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In other words a first person shooter, but instead of guns >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magic spells. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The demo will allow you to only explore the ground floor, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> basement >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dungeon levels of the Hogwarts Castle for twenty minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At that point the game will stop, but you can play as many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> times >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the above restrictions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The game is 104 MB in size and the link is below. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phil Vlasak >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pcsgames.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to leave send a blank Email to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can contact the list owners/moderators by Emailing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to go nomail send a blank message to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change "nomail" to "normal" to resume messages. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! 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