i'm all for both! i was just using bavisoft as an example of what can happen when you are so determined to get the human element in to a game to make it different from the rest, that you seem to forget about the game itself, and ignore the final cost to the consumer. like i said in another message, if someone can get human voices, a game with replay value and at a cost that doesn't break the bank, on the market, let's have it! Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list contact me via email/msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "FigureInTheCloak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah's voice
> Uh, any reason why you can't have human voices and great replay value? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kevin and emma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:00 AM > Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah's voice > > > > and as i pointed out, there's a lot of folks already complaining about the > > price of existing games. double the price and one thing is for sure, even > > with human voices, you won't sell as many games! for me replay value wins > > everytime, hence my comments about bavisoft, great audio quality but crap > > games and ridiculous prices for the privellege of having those human > > voices. > > Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list > > contact me via email/msn: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:17 PM > > Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah's voice > > > > > >> hi > >> > >> but if we want higher quality games it tough, we have to pay more for the > >> games, just cause we blind we cant keep having speech synthesizers all > >> the > >> time? that stupid > >> if we want quality, we pay for it, simple as > >> will > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "kevin and emma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 2:10 PM > >> Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah's voice > >> > >> > >> > agreed! i'd rather sell 5 games at $30 than 3 games at $50, and i for > > one > >> > would not pay almost double for a game just because it's got real > >> > voices > >> > in > >> > it. it wasn't long ago people were complaining about the price of > >> > accessible > >> > games! look at bavisoft, they use real voices which hikes up the price > > of > >> > the games, and frankly, after completing the games once or twice you > > might > >> > as well chuck the games in the bin as there's zilch replay value. i'd > >> > rather > >> > have a cheaper game i can replay again and again, than a higher priced > >> > game > >> > because the voices are human! not too mention the time saved by using > >> > synthetic speech. > >> > Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list > >> > contact me via email/msn: > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 6:45 PM > >> > Subject: Re: audyssey: Sarah's voice > >> > > >> > > >> >> Game changes and upgrades can be done so much more easily and quickly > >> > using > >> >> the method that Phil is using. Plus the unnecessary time and expense > > of > >> >> using humans to record the speech. I totally understand where he's > >> >> coming > >> >> from on this one > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "johnny tai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:29 AM > >> >> Subject: RE: audyssey: Sarah's voice > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > If everyone take a look at the sound files of Grizley Gultch, > >> >> > they've > >> >> > included the files that are situatiions when the actors made > > mistakes- > >> >> > quite > >> >> > funny really. And Phil, look at it this way, if you can get good > >> >> > volunteers, > >> >> > and put in alot of aditional times on this, you might sell it for 50 > >> >> > dollars > >> >> > instead of 30, and most of us, I think, would be glad to pay that > > extra > >> >> > 20. > >> >> > JST > >> >> > > >> >> > -----Original Message----- > >> >> > From: [email protected] > >> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > Behalf Of Phil Vlasak > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 7:40 AM > >> >> > To: [email protected] > >> >> > Subject: Re:audyssey: Sarah's voice > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi Sarah, > >> >> > I have made the recording voice offer to many people and they have > > said > >> >> > yes, > >> >> > then they find out that it would take many days to record the 500 or > > so > >> >> > wave > >> >> > files for the game and they say no real quick. > >> >> > > >> >> > They all need to be recorded in a quiet place done in 22k 16 bit > >> >> > mono > >> >> > format > >> >> > and many with the same tone pitch and pace. > >> >> > Especially the numbers and parts of sentences that must be joined > >> > together > >> >> > to form sentences. > >> >> > > >> >> > Lastly the voice of Sarah must be in the right age range, so if the > >> > person > >> >> > is ten or 100 they should not apply. > >> >> > And in most cases a female voice would be preferred for a female > >> >> > character. > >> >> > smiles, > >> >> > Phil > >> >> > > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> >> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:02 PM > >> >> > Subject: Re: Re:RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and > >> >> > Wizardry. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> lol. like I said I'd be willing to be sarah. lol. > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> From: "Mich Verrier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:40 PM > >> >> >> Subject: Re: Re:RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft > >> >> >> and > >> >> >> Wizardry. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > yes you are right maybe they should get Jim dail to provide some > > of > >> > the > >> >> >> > voices or maybe robin Williams smile > >> >> >> > From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada > >> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> > From: "Brandon Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:28 PM > >> >> >> > Subject: Re: Re:RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft > > and > >> >> >> > Wizardry. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >>I don't know, this is just my opinion, but I vote for real voice > >> > actors > >> >> > in > >> >> >> >> this game. I'm not even promoting myself this time, but I think > > it > >> >> > needs > >> >> >> >> some people. Listening to that synthesizer casting spells in > >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> monotone > >> >> >> >> kind of takes away from them in my opinion. > >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> >> From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> >> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 9:16 PM > >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Re:RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> Wizardry. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>>I think the howler is. sometimes I have trouble understanding > >> > dobbie, > >> >> > but > >> >> >> >>> even I the movies he was kind of wierd. > >> >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> >>> From: "patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> >>> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 4:28 PM > >> >> >> >>> Subject: Re: Re:RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of > >> >> >> >>> Witchcraft > >> > and > >> >> >> >>> Wizardry. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>>>I can't understand Dobby. And is he one of the voices from > >> > laquendo? > >> >> >> >>>> Patrick, aka the tricksta. > >> >> >> >>>> Visit my web site at > >> >> >> >>>> <http://www.patjk.com> > >> >> >> >>>> contact info > >> >> >> >>>> msn > >> >> >> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> >>>> aol > >> >> >> >>>> brnngnr > >> >> >> >>>> skype > >> >> >> >>>> pjk111 > >> >> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> >>>> From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:21 PM > >> >> >> >>>> Subject: Re:RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft > > and > >> >> >> >>>> Wizardry. > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> Hi Jonnie and Liam, > >> >> >> >>>>> The only characters you need to understand is Sarah herself > > and > >> >> > Dobby > >> >> >> >>>>> when > >> >> >> >>>>> he tries to give you some help. > >> >> >> >>>>> The goblin and basilisk are delibertly changed so that you do > >> >> >> >>>>> not > >> >> >> >>>>> understand > >> >> >> >>>>> what they say. > >> >> >> >>>>> Or can Sarah speak Parsel tongue? > >> >> >> >>>>> As for the passwords, Harry found one of his passwords by > > using > >> > the > >> >> >> >>>>> map, > >> >> >> >>>>> but > >> >> >> >>>>> in this game there are three ways to do that. > >> >> >> >>>>> Phil > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> >>>>> From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 3:30 PM > >> >> >> >>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and > >> >> >> >>>>> Wizardry. > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>>> Heh. I'm still trying to figgure out how exactly it ends. > >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >> >> >> >>>>>> From: [email protected] > >> >> >> >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> >>>>>> On > >> >> >> >>>>>> Behalf Of johnny tai > >> >> >> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 2:21 PM > >> >> >> >>>>>> To: [email protected] > >> >> >> >>>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft > >> >> >> >>>>>> and > >> >> >> >>>>>> Wizardry. > >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>>> I find my problems with Sarah is that I have problem with > >> >> >> >>>>>> the > >> >> >> >>>>>> speeches > >> >> >> >>>>>> of > >> >> >> >>>>>> some characters, and also, I am having problem with the > >> > navagation > >> >> >> >>>>>> system- > >> >> >> >>>>>> was never good with pacman talk either. Hell, got trapped in > >> >> >> >>>>>> the > >> >> >> >>>>>> broom > >> >> >> >>>>>> closet for 20 minutes till the demo ended! 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