Hey!  Cool Idea!  Somebody go for it!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: you? don't? know?? - Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?


> James being from (Califonia) he is probley a Grateful Dead fan, and making
> him a Dead head more then I.
>
> You know that music that goes on and on as video music does.  I wonder if
> anybody has put Dead music in games or something like that brand of acid
> Rock.  That wold be a cool game.
>
> Having Acid rock musi and one would have to pick up little tabs,  fight 
> with
> little Mary Jane creatures, hits of a bong for for energy then go for to
> search for moon pies, then having to beat the Large White Rabbit to get 
> the
> next high level.
>
> New thats a game I would what a pair of Dead sets.
>
> And when you do die the music could be:
> "Mama told me not to come".
>
> It could as wwell be a anti drug game, where you are avoiding drug 
> dealers,
> avoiding horse needles, trying to stay out of the cops hair, while trying 
> to
> save a friend from the dragnet.  Having the game set in the past so there 
> be
> a great collect of music and different levels would have the music change
> for that level while the year changes.  Using different events of that 
> year
> could give one missions to complete.
>
> using music from the past in games I think is a great idea.  To get around
> copyrights, would not have the music of certain songs playing through, but
> using small clips and awkknowledgements for songs and a place to get the
> music say like Amazon, game could use up to thirty seconds of a certain
> title.  So in a game that set in a period of time, the player would hear
> songs from say radios, car speakers and many other locations.  The music
> clip could even be a hint.
> Lets say the song was:
> "Tears of a Clown".
> Then the player may need to find a circus.  Of corse the cclues could be
> much harder, but you get the point.
> Let say one level is 1963 and your mission could to be to save Kennedy.
>
> Well, thanks Charles, what you did, you got me to using my brain to storm 
> up
> new ideas.  I guess I still a few living cells between my old Rock n Roll
> eyes.  So you in the Chat room for todays chat session on the
> For-the-People.com
>
> Who knows maybe that beach bum James will poke his Dead head in.
>
> Hmmm.  Surfing game with music....  O yeah wax up my board  What another
> idea.  This game must be a head to head game at least played over the net.
>
> If anybody has gotten this far, I myself in the middle of my draft in the
> 1936 season of the baseball league and some one has taken my top pick for
> the Chicago Cubs from me.  So I will be as well talking about Strat 
> Baseball
> in today's chat if want to hear more then just pipe up.  Whoa now thats 
> the
> name for the game above.
> "Pipe up" or the anti-drug game is "Pipe down".  and for the other one 
> could
> be "Pipe to the Past"..
> Today is Jan 14 2005  and I hold the rights to theses name..
>
> Pwew, must be something in the water here besides the arsenal here in New
> Mexico, where cowboys  still love guns, pickups hard licker and women with
> tall hair.  Its not the Old wWest, but its Wild.
>
> Crash
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:17 PM
> Subject: you? don't? know?? - Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>
>
>> Yes.  A deadset.  Don't tell me!  You don't know what a deadset is?? 
>> It's
>> a
>> headset designed for those with empty space between the ears.  I figured
>> that you, if anyone, would know what you should own.  (ornery grin).
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 6:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>
>>
>>>A dead set?
>>>
>>> Whoa must save this email
>>>
>>> Crash
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>
>>>
>>>>9 pm Eastern, 8 central.  I hope you can locate a deadset.  It would be
>>>> interesting to have you join, and you are more than welcome.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:26 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll shoot you off an e-mail.  9:00 pacific standard time?  If I can
>>>>> find
>>>>> a
>>>>> headset that works, I might give it a shot.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Ron Schamerhorn
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 4:24 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi James
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'd also like to contact you offlist if you wouldn't mind.  The chat
>>>>> starts at 9:00 or there about on
>>>>> WWW.for-the-people.com
>>>>>  I doubt i'll be showing this evening.  Though if yif you would like 
>>>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>> in touch it's
>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope to hear from you
>>>>> Ron Schamerhorn
>>>>> Audyssey Editor
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN only
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: James from Alchemy
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What time is the game chat?
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Gary Whittington
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:48 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ekekekeke
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess we have a nice topic for game chat tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some ears going to be ringing tonight.  LOl
>>>>>
>>>>> Crash
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 1:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Send something to Kevin off list as he has asked, voicing your
>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> hope every list member sends him something, whether it be on the side
>>>>>> for,
>>>>>> or against, Brenda's behavior.  To me, the worst thing she did was to
>>>>>> post
>>>>>> portions of, or entire, off list Emails to the list, making them no
>>>>>> longer
>>>>>> private.  Unexcusable.  I have sent Kevin a private Email, and have
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> sent Brenda a copy of my thoughts on how she has been handling this
>>>>>> situation, and have also made my feelings known as to what should be
>>>>>> done
>>>>>> and why.  Again, I hope that all list members take part in shaping 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> in the future.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Gary Whittington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:46 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got to say that was not fair.  With mods reminding us to take things
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> list then posting it as though it was not a private conversation.
>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>> wlhy
>>>>>>> would anybody take it off line to have some thing maybe taken out 
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> contents.  A person would nick pick and reword the email to fit 
>>>>>>> thier
>>>>>>> agenda.
>>>>>>> I myself find anything new or even justifying in the email to have
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> thing to be done.  IN fact if there was any justifying reason to do
>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> act no one sould do it.  no one asked to see the private messages
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> some thing like is not knocking a person character but the one who
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> the public posting.  We all don't like public flogging and thats
>>>>>>> whatit
>>>>>>> looked like and a a ploy for more flogging and ridecue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The action and reaction of this is going  not help the moderation of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list when a mod ask a person to take it of list and they want to 
>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> email member to talk to them privately, how can one trust a mod to
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> private between them.  It certaining looks like a mistake, if one
>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>> caught up in the moment and a retracktion is is the best thing all
>>>>>>> around.
>>>>>>> When I read the post I felt dirty.  So, as others I am sure, not to
>>>>>>> mention
>>>>>>> James who's trust was broken in thinking that emailing a moderator,
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> break this common sense trust.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am only trying to be fair and truthfull here and not wanting to
>>>>>>> stir
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> anything up.  This email group for me gets my most email in my box
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>> its a tough enough job to mod it as I see it in my email box.  For 
>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list we don't see what gets through for this and that, and I am 
>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> it.  But do we going to need a Mod for the moderators.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, since this email has to about flaming and flogging, I have done
>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>> Not
>>>>>>> on anybody but on a matter that is very important and that is 
>>>>>>> posting
>>>>>>> private messages to a public form.  The list has rules now and maybe
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> to the members now to look at making rules for the Moderators.  This
>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>> may spawn off other threads, well so be it, maybe all this will make
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> list even better in the long run  I took some time off before
>>>>>>> writting
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> email, and that may have been the right choice for me and for those
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>> get caught up in something and later wishes they had not.  This list
>>>>>>> certainly has people who cares and thats great.  WE have a passion
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>> and that is the heart of this email list.  We want this email to be
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> as it can be and once awhile the passion blinds us in what we are
>>>>>>> doing,
>>>>>>> being good or bad.  So, when we all can try to remember, at times to
>>>>>>> sit
>>>>>>> back before going off and ask ourselves will this hurt or be 
>>>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>>> For
>>>>>>> the email list I hope this does help  and for this old wind bag, I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> my peace and want to get back to learning about games.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Crash
>>>>>>> God Bliss
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Jennifer North" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 1:18 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You, as a moderator, should know that this point will only bring
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> discussion back up even as it's been dealt with effectively by
>>>>>>>> Kevin.
>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>> do you need now?  Vindication?  Do I bring this issue to my website
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> an all-out war?  You brought off-list correspondence on-list.  It's
>>>>>>>> well-known that you often act towards members in ways that would
>>>>>>>> normally
>>>>>>>> get others in trouble or on moderated status.  Is there a
>>>>>>>> double-standard?
>>>>>>>> I believe so.  Others believe so.  That's just my opinion based on
>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>> flare ups you've had with other members (who shall not be 
>>>>>>>> mentioned,
>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>> their private e-mails fanned out here in a public forum).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As many people have definite opinions of you as they do of me.
>>>>>>>> Thought
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> thread was dead?  On one hand, you say that you refuse to respond,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>> you're bringing it back up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't see what's so hard to see about the thread being snide,
>>>>>>>> facetious,
>>>>>>>> and sarcastic.  To what standard can the members be held 
>>>>>>>> accountable
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> you, as a moderator, do not adhere to the same standard?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let it go and move on.. get some therapy.. whatever, but you know,
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can't even e-mail a moderator privately without you shoveling it 
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>> the list publicly, then screw it.  I don't know what kind of
>>>>>>>> medication,
>>>>>>>> affliction, or condition you either have or need to have, but this
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> getting old.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Drop it already.. if you need to have the last word, then have it..
>>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>>> let's let it go.. and, please, everyone else not respond to her 
>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>> word..
>>>>>>>> time to move! on! folks!.. as, Mr. Rivard would say. *grin*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of brenda green
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:41 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: audyssey: Where is the flaming?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something to think about, no responses needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First I would like to apologize to Kevin who has taken the brunt of
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> thread since I've been working. Yes, I do have a life away from 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> I do have a job and a family.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I to take it as an owner/moderator of this list I'm not entitled
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> opinion? I really don't know how this thread went from 
>>>>>>>> clarification
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> whether "orders" or "pre-orders" were being taken for Monty to 
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> ended up. I stated that I'd wait until the game was released and
>>>>>>>> stated
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> fact for my decision.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The following are messages between James North and myself, some of
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> were sent privately. I'd just like to know where the flaming is. I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> never, on or off the list, reverted to insults or namecalling. I do
>>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>> the fact, ask unwelcome questions, and occasionally give my 
>>>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>>> There's
>>>>>>>> also a couple of messages from other list members who shall remain
>>>>>>>> nameless
>>>>>>>> unless they choose to admit to them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's right James, who needs that extra $15. Given your record 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> pre-ordering, I'm surprised you'd even offer it as a pre-order.
>>>>>>>> "raceway"
>>>>>>>> was offered for pre-order in 2001 and is still not available to
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> paid good cash for it. Monty was "shipping" November 2003 and
>>>>>>>> recalled.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> don't know of anybody that actually got the game. Now, more than a
>>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>>> later, you're offering Monty for pre-order? I for one, will wait
>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> actually released to take a look at it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, and that old adage.. if you have nothing nice to say.. I don't
>>>>>>>> recall
>>>>>>>> anyone twisting YOUR arm.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's correct, Brenda.  And, I also didn't possess "Raceway" for 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>> year.  However, I essentially donated four years of my life doing
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> community a favor.  If you don't want to pre-order, then simply
>>>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>>>> Your
>>>>>>>> innuendos aren't necessary.  In fact, let me do you a favor in the
>>>>>>>> spirit
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> your natural disposition.  I won't sell it to you, even after it's
>>>>>>>> released--very soon, by the way--I'll, in your name, raise the 
>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> $49.95.  So, if anyone wants to pre-order it, they'd better get
>>>>>>>> busy.
>>>>>>>> Ain't
>>>>>>>> that right, Brenda? *smile*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: James North
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cc: 'Jennifer North'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Post & Status
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brenda,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I to assume that my response to your inflammatory post on the BG
>>>>>>>> List
>>>>>>>> will not be going through since only the last post of mine did?  I
>>>>>>>> assume
>>>>>>>> you made a quick maneuver after posting yours and then put me back
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> moderated status as my posts have been coming through regularly 
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: brenda green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> To: James North
>>>>>>>> Cc: 'Jennifer North'
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Post & Status
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No James, I did not put you on moderated status.  Furthermore, I do
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> intend on doing that. If you step over the line, you will be dealt
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same as any other member of the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My post only stated facts and if you take it as flaming then 
>>>>>>>> perhaps
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> need to consider what was said. You and I both know those facts are
>>>>>>>> true.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brenda Green
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: James North
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: 'brenda green'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Post & Status
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brenda,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I know was you went from toning Will down and saying, "Let's
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> happens.." and, basically, that I have a track record of coming
>>>>>>>> through-albeit, often at the last minute-and, then the snide remark
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> pre-ordering and then again tonight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't expect special treatment, so that's the last time you need
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> imply
>>>>>>>> that.  Honestly, whether I'm on the list or not is inconsequential.
>>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>>> as I post an update to my customer base, it's on the list, anyway.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> eight hundred other people to send updates to.  The benefit of me
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the list is that people can ask me questions directly.  That's why
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> there.  But, if that privilege is abused, then I'll unsubscribe
>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>> That's not being arrogant or a threat, but keeping up on the list
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>> time out of my day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As far as Monty, I really don't want to air my own personal 
>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> 2004 was like, but I'll bet money that you'd be hard pressed to 
>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> my customer's who have had as much on their plate while trying to
>>>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> regular job and still work on these games for you guys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know what the facts are-they're in black and white in the posts.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> anyone's in doubt, they can back track through the thread and then
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> will, too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sure there are probably a lot of people who would care less if 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>> keep working on the games and disappeared, but there are also a lot
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> depend on it on a few different levels.  And, I do have a track
>>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> if delays can't be taken into consideration based on not only the
>>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have written and released, not to mention inspiring others to 
>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>> suit,
>>>>>>>> then I really don't know what to tell them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I re-subscribed to be more available to the community.  If you
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to get into a pissing match with me for whatever animosity you 
>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>> seem
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> have from whatever a few years ago, then just say so or if I'm put
>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> moderated status, say so.  And, I'll unsubscribe.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It really, truly, and honestly makes no difference to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At this point, I refused to responp further, both on and off the
>>>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> the next post shows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From:  brenda green
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Montezuma's Revenge Orders
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> James, I have a question for you. This question does not apply to 
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have not pre-ordered Raceway and you refuse to sell me Monty.
>>>>>>>> Somebody
>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>> me and I'm referring the question to you since you now have the
>>>>>>>> rights
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> both games.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before I ask the question though, perhaps you can clarify one point
>>>>>>>> please.
>>>>>>>> During the year or so when AdoraEntertainment owned Raceway they
>>>>>>>> refused
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> take pre-orders. All pre-orders were placed with you, it this true
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> false?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm asking you this question on the list because I don't have the
>>>>>>>> answer
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> others on the list may be interested in the answer as well as the
>>>>>>>> person
>>>>>>>> that asked me. If a person has pre-ordered Raceway from you and
>>>>>>>> they'd
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> to get Monty, can they change their order since the same company
>>>>>>>> owns
>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>> games? If there's a price difference, can they pay the difference
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> Monty instead of Raceway?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brenda Green
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, Brenda.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's correct.  All pre-orders for Raceway were placed with me
>>>>>>>> except
>>>>>>>> during the period that Adora owned the game for which they took no
>>>>>>>> pre-orders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Converting a Raceway order to a Monty order would be fine.  If
>>>>>>>> anyone's
>>>>>>>> interested, e-mail
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - James
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've removed headers, names and signatures from the following two
>>>>>>>> messages.
>>>>>>>> If the senders whis to make themselves known, they can do so
>>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: personal opinion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is well known that Brenda does not get along with James North.
>>>>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>> hostility has been shown by her posts to the list.  Should someone
>>>>>>>> who,
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> fairly regular basis, does not follow the list guidelines by 
>>>>>>>> showing
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> open hostility, be a moderator?  In my opinion, no.  At least, her
>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>> messages should be moderated by the list owner.  If she cannot at
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> follow the guidelines, she should be replaced as a moderator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To: "brenda green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Montezuma's Revenge Orders
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Brenda,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm just writing you off list to say that I think that it is a good
>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>> that you bring up Mr North's pre-order record whenever he makes
>>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> he is looking for them.  I think of your messages as a public
>>>>>>>> service
>>>>>>>> message to new comers and I'm glad that you do them as it seems 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> not post any sort of negative message about Mr North, his games or
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> previous pre-order record to the list without occurring the wrath 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> moderator, others and Mr North himself no matter how non flaming 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> factual
>>>>>>>> the message may be.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Several of you may be interested in this bit of news. I have, for
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>> been seriously considering leaving the list both as an
>>>>>>>> owner/moderator
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> member. The last couple of days does not influence my decision. It
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> probably happen some time during late 2006. If you'd be interested
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> becoming a moderator of the list you might want to send a message 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> owners of the list at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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