Kevin, please think twice before making an emotional and rash decision. Take a break if you have to, but consider that this list is not always like this, most of the time I have seen some great things come thru. Everything from games to help with jaws to information not readily available except from the brains of fellow blind gamers. This is a great resource and it is just going through some human shortcomings. Sure it is disappointing but it shouldn't be surprising. It will get better again and you will wonder what ever possessed you to think about quitting. allan ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin and emma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: moderator observations was Re: audyssey: demo of monty
> well all i can say is, well done list!! give yourselves a pat on the back, > and it's not even the end of the week yet. i hope those of you who have > assisted james' decision are proud of what you have done. if i was a > developer i'd quit this list immediately! and i am seriously now > considering > quitting my moderation job. i spent almost 3 days this week sorting out a > problem on the list i wasn't even involved in. then 2 days later, i'm out > for the day with friends and family and i come back to more of what i've > just sorted out, and seem to be continually sorting out. frankly, i'm fed > to > the back teeth with it! i would have thought folks would have at least > given > james until tomorrow, but know they have to jump on his back today, even > my > fellow moderator, whose already had a warning this week. > i am unclear these days why in fact we bother with moderators, as it seems > nothing we say has any authority and is continually ignored. so what > choice > do i have? i either tighten up big style on the list guidelines to the > point > were i get accused of being heavy handed or a control freak? throw several > members off the list and be accused of the same? or leave things be and > watch the list self-distruct, or finally hand the job to someone else for > them to find out just what a hard, thankless and frankly depressing job it > is running this list! you know i actually don't want to pick up my emails > these days because i'm almost guaranteed to find another problem on the > list? i'm not going to live like that! > > i would post a message closing the topic of monty until it's release .... > funny thought i did a few days ago! .... but what's the point? the damage > is > done already. > > i will spend 48 hours considering my position and give my final decision > by > midnight *my time* tuesday as too whether i'm staying or resigning as > co-owner and moderator. if you all want to discuss this on list, go ahead! > frankly at the minute i don't actually care! might give james north a > break > if anything! smile. i can of course be contacted privately, email address > is > below. > > Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list > contact me via email/msn: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:09 PM > Subject: RE: audyssey: demo of monty > > >> >> Ah, good. >> >> Well, since Brenda can't seem to keep her dislike of me under >> control--or, >> perhaps she's just generally a hostile and miserable person since she >> appears to dislike several other members as well--I'll hang around until > the >> demo is posted and then I'll catch those who are genuinely interested in > the >> games on the Alchemy lists in a few days. >> >> It's obvious that Brenda can't just "let it go" even after her public >> apology and unprofessional list conduct. I get a feeling that she felt >> sleighted having to do that with her "I wasn't the only one wrong; but > that >> does not justify my action." predication on Friday and only did so to >> appease. >> >> Many would say that I've been unprofessional in either my responses and >> in >> conducting my business affairs where pre-ordering is concerned and I > openly >> admit so. Even entering my sixth year into this, I'm still finding > there's >> no good way to balance work, personal life, and writing accessible games > on >> the side while keeping all happy. I've tried and I have failed. In >> learning so, Max will be the last game that's pre-orderable and, if >> titles >> are to be produced after its eventual release, they will be done so > quietly >> and under lock and key. If they're late by my schedule or never ending >> up >> seeing the light of day, then they will have come and gone without ever >> being missed. In a way, since my heart truly isn't in this anymore, the >> bickering and prodding has actually been the only resolve to finish the >> games I've started except to fulfill the expectations and faith that > others >> have had. >> >> They are the ones who have the right to moan, not the Brenda's and Will's > of >> the community who apparently have nothing better to do than egg people >> on. >> I can't say for Will, but I know first-hand that Montezuma's Revenge is > not >> Brenda's cup of tea. And, since her interaction with the community > on-list >> is rather rude, hostile, and sarcastic, I doubt her intentions are >> advocating for the masses. >> >> It's easy to rattle off the names of those few who really spoil this >> list--people like Will, Shaun, and Brenda--and, I doubt many would > disagree. >> Thankfully, Brenda doesn't usually offer much, but when she does it's >> usually to admonish, lash out because the post annoys her, or plays > control >> freak. >> >> So, as of the release of the demo, I'm unsubscribing to this list. When > it >> can find a more pleasant moderator in addition to Kevin, I'll consider >> giving it another shot. You can be sure information that's distributed > via >> the Alchemy update list will find it's way on here by others that are > doing >> the list a favor, but it'll always come last and second-hand in the > future. >> >> It's just not worth the time debating what, when, how, did, didn't, and >> which day is the last day of the week and what didn't happen. What >> didn't >> happen is irrelevant. Today is today and it's forward we go. >> >> So, to the future and accessible gaming! >> >> Best wishes, >> >> James >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of James from Alchemy >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:10 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: audyssey: demo of monty >> >> >> *yawn* >> >> So, it looks like I'm on moderated status once again... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of brenda green >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:01 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: audyssey: demo of monty >> >> James, until last week you were saying the game would be released. On >> January 12, 2006 you said the demo would be available for download since > you >> >> were unable to package the game and demo as one release. Until that >> point, >> you were saying the game and demo were one package and it would be > available >> >> for release, first at the end of the year (2004), then a couple of days > were >> >> needed, then last week at the end of the week and now you're saying just > the >> >> demo will be released some time today. Is this right? >> >> Yes, you have said there is a problem with the registration of the game > but >> isn't that the same thing you said was the reason the game didn't ship in >> December 2003, yes I said 2003? >> >> >> >> to leave send a blank Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> You can contact the list owners/moderators by Emailing >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> to go nomail send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> change "nomail" to "normal" to resume messages. >> Yahoo! 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