Wow! Well said! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:27 PM Subject: audyssey: gaming and community thoughts
>I don't know how many times I've either unsubscribed or left altogether in > the past, mostly over the James North flame wars. I wondered for a time > if > the list had lost control and if a name change was in order. LOL As > frustrated as I am over raceway, having paid for it years ago, I'm still > willing to give it a chance. Constructive criticism is one thing but the > flame wars drive me crazy. Even though the moderators came down hard on > Kellie's post, I understand and agree with it. Of course it's up to the > moderators to decide what to do about things here. Do know though that > more > than one person has either left, or seriously considered it over the flame > wars. I wish more people would work with each other rather than against. > With as much time and energy as I've seen trashing one man operations for, > what are perceived to be "inferior" games to our sighted counterparts, > it's > a wonder that developers are still willing to even develop and release > games > for us. For those who really believe that what we have in games is that > inferior, create your own superior games, use your energy in other > pursuits > rather than flaming those who are trying to work with us. Submitting > constructively criticized bug reports is one thing and should always be > encouraged along with suggestions. Once a game has been released, > remembering the early days of Alien Outback, James has proven himself > willing and capable of listening to constructive criticism and bug reports > that are given in a mature manner and each version of the game only got > better than the one before. I see that Monty's going to get the same > treatment with promised patches. Thank you. > > Thank you to all the developers out there who are trying to improve and > change the face of accessibility in gaming for the blind. True, there is > more I'd like to see, maybe an Everquest type of game, for instance, but I > also recognize that the budgets aren't large, especially when dealing with > as specialized a market as we are, a large number of us on some form of > limited public assistance. May the games continue to get bigger and > better, > and may we spread the word that there are accessible games now out there > for > the blind. With a larger income base, and a happier reputation in the > community, new people will feel more welcome. Best of all, if the > resources > and finances are out there to develop, the games will become better I'm > convinced. > > For me, it's sad to see someone like Kellie stretched to the point where > she > felt that she needed to post her thoughts, controversial as they are. > It's > sad for me as well to have to agree. Rather than put her down for her > thoughts, no matter how people think they were worded, I hope we can work > on > the community to better and empower ourselves and the community so that > this > will become a place of escape from the drudgeries of everyday life. Games > are created as an escape, not as a source of contention. Let's all work > together to make the community the same. If some of us are not willing to > do so, let's have some respect for the others and purge ourselves from the > community for a time until we can come back with a more appropriate > attitude. > > Travis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 10:29 AM > Subject: RE: audyssey: MONTI > > > You know, this is a great list bar a few trouble makers. I still don't > have > any idea why they have remained here. > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of chris > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 4:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: audyssey: MONTI > > > > Hello all, > > I agree with Kellie, I have thought many a time, to leave this list, > and I must admit it's getting more frequent, but as there are more > than one game out there, it's what keeps me going. > > Can I just ask, before sending a message, 'STOP' think, will this > enhance the on going thread, or will it only hinder it. That way, > those who belong to a number of lists, 'yes' I know it's the > individuals choice, how many lists they belong to, but over the last > couple of weeks, I must have Deleted well over a thousand messages, > and many of which were unread, I only belong to a few, less than six. > > Come on, lets just cool off, give the Chaps and Chapesses a chance to > provide us with what we want, and I think on the whole what they want > to give us, yes, at a cost they and only they can set. > > Sorry for the rambleing, but I just had to get it off my chest. > > Chris P. > > At 03:10 28/01/2006, you wrote: >>at the rate we are going, another fight is on its way. Everyone is > entitled >>to their own opinion of the game. I happen to like it, but that doesn't >>mean that others have to. If they think it isn't worth the money to >>invest >>into it, that is their choice, and at the same time, those who like the > game >>are entitled to. both have just as much right to say what they think of >>it >>without critisism, though it should be in a constructive fassion. >> >>But, i can already see that we are going to end up with name calling and >>flaming and darn right immature posts. >> >>I have never seen any other list bicker like I see on here and it is >>rediculous. they are useless messages filled with nothing but, you are a >>winer, or bitch bitch bitch, or you are saying this, he does that, his > games >>should b on time. arguing about days, when things should and shouldn't b >>out, let it go, goodness. life is to damned short to be complaining about >>something so trivial. >>Kellie and my loveable Lady J. >>Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened. >>msn, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>aim sionnain74 >>skype, sabrielle >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Vapour Wiseblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:44 PM >>Subject: Re: audyssey: MONTI >> >> >> > Bitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitchbitch >> > whinewhinewhinewhinewhinewhinewhinewhine Waaaahhhhh ! Mommy! I want a >> > game >> > that is free and easy, so I can feel like I'm cool like the big >> > boys.... >> > Waaaahhhh!!!!! CRY CRY CRY CRY BITCH BITCH BITCH WHINEWHINEWHINE >> > >> > -Vapour >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:05 PM >> > Subject: Re: audyssey: MONTI >> > >> > >> >> that means all of us on laptops will have to use external keyboards. >> >> I think this is unfair, there should be a laptop arrow keyboard set or >> >> something. >> >> What about if you don't want to use the num pad. >> >> Another reason not to buy. >> >> This is really dissapointing. >> >> At 03:12 a.m. 28/01/2006, you wrote: >> >>>There is in the full version. You can redefine the keys. However, you >> >>>can't >> >>>do that in the demo. >> >>>Michael Feir >> >>>Creator and former Editor of Audyssey Magazine >> >>>1996-2004 >> >>>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >>>From: "Michael Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>To: <[email protected]> >> >>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 9:06 AM >> >>>Subject: audyssey: MONTI >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>>I downloaded the demo, then was reading how to play, and I am playing > on >> >>>>a >> >>>>laptop. 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