Wouldn't that be because the person is giving away the copy and thus not actually gaining anything except having owned that copy for however long he/she had it before giving it away? There are a lot of CDs that I own but haven't listened to in ages. I wouldn't particularly miss them if I gave them away at the moment, but I would still be losing all rights to having them at some future date when I might actually want them. I've therefore in theory given something up by giving away the tape or cd presuming I haven't made mp3s or something. When I gave away the actual purchased recording, I would then no longer have legal rights to keep any digital copies I made previously. Michael Feir Creator and former Editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message ----- From: "James from Alchemy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: RE: audyssey: Atari > What I've never understood about that is why is the recording industry > going > after people for copying music and video, yet when someone buys an > original > off another person, the recording industry is still losing a direct sale, > but doesn't appear to be worried about it. > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of FigureInTheCloak > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:39 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: audyssey: Atari > > > > Um, if you're buying a copy off someone or someone gives you their old > copy > of the rom, what would be illegal about that? The only thing I could see > being illegal would be if someone burned you a copy, or burned copies and > sold them. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:06 AM > Subject: RE: audyssey: Atari > > >> Hi Allan and all. >> >> I hope to hell I can get them back too, I cannot believe I did not back >> those up somewhere! Arg! Chewing nails. As to the legality well let me >> say this. Strictly speaking what is legal is that if you have the actual >> cartridge in your possession then it is legal to have copies of the roms >> however in practice I doubt if anyone is going to much care. As many of >> these things that are floating around at yard sales and thrift stores and >> whatnot there is no way anyone could tell if you had it or you didn't. >> Having said that, I will also say though that I too will not share any >> sources of roms publically on this list because I feel it violates the >> spirit of the list. Just for information, stella in and of itself is in >> no >> way illegal and yes feel free to search it up and try it it is really >> cool. >> >> Regards, >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> --- >> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype username: lord_amexos >> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of allan thompson >> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 5:48 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: audyssey: Atari >> >> >> Hey Tom, >> I changed the subject line since the conversation changed. >> I hope you can restock your atari games without loss. Can I ask you were >> you >> >> would get something like that and how accesible it might be. Is it legal? >> thanks, allan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:34 PM >> Subject: RE: audyssey: Monty, of course >> >> >>> Hey Allan, >>> >>> Yes the jaguar was two units, the main console which would play >>> cartridges and the cd drive. There were comparatively few games >>> released for the cd drive so if you don't get that it is not too >>> critical. I am really not sure on prices because I have not check >>> ebay and such in a long while. Btw was just checking some old backups >>> and I appear to have lost all my stella stuff >>> along with my archive of atari 2600 games, I had a couple hundred of >>> them. >>> Damnation! Fortunately a friend of mine has most of them I think so >>> will >>> have to try and get them back along with the new version of Stella. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> --- >>> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype username: lord_amexos >>> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of allan thompson >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:43 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Monty, of course >>> >>> >>> Hi Tom, >>> I vaguely remember the atari jaguar. Wasn't it two seperate game >>> devices like Sega CD? How much does those things go for anyway, just >>> for curiosity sake. >>> allan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:57 PM >>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Monty, of course >>> >>> >>>> Hey Allan and all. >>>> >>>> As others have said you can pick these machines up at thrift stores >>>> and yard >>>> sales and stuff like that usually for dirt cheap. As I said in another >>>> message the only one I have not found for cheap for a complete system >>>> is >>>> the >>>> atari Jaguar which was their last system that was released in the early >>>> 90's >>>> and like a lot of atari stuff was way ahead of its time but poorly >>>> advertised. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> skype username: lord_amexos >>>> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> On Behalf Of allan thompson >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:24 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello Tom, >>>> *gives secret atari brotherhood handshake* >>>> Atari will rise again! >>>> lol >>>> It is good to hear some of those machines are still kicking. My atari >>>> computer kicked the bucket in the late eighties and I grieved over >>>> it. I can't seem to recall my atari call sign. I want to say it was >>>> 7600? It was white and had this interesting feature where you could >>>> create a virtual ram disk with it. I am probably wrong about the >>>> number, I also owned the >>>> advanced atari game machine with the controllers that had a number >>>> pad >>>> and >>>> >>>> side fire buttons made of soft rubber, and a joystick. I remember >>>> playing galaxians and star raiders on it. Oh and pac man. I can't >>>> remember any others. It all starts to run together after a while. >>>> keep gaming, allan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tom Randall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:14 PM >>>> Subject: RE: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Allan and all. >>>>> >>>>> Ah, another Atari Freak! Hail brother! I remember all those titles >>>>> too, in fact I still have several working atari systems here and >>>>> have some of them >>>>> on good old 5.25" floppy disks and tapes although I avoid the tapes >>>>> like >>>>> the >>>>> plague whenever possible. Not sure if I have the original Montezuma >>>>> game >>>>> or >>>>> not, may have to hook one of the old beasts up and see. It is amazing >>>>> how >>>>> many of those old games we can play, true not as well as a sighted >>>>> guy/gal >>>>> but we could learn them because the sounds actually meant something. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> msn username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> skype username: lord_amexos >>>>> yahoo username: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> On Behalf Of allan thompson >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 5:03 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: audyssey: Monty, of course >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello,I remember playing several old atari computer games in the >>>>> old days. My friends and I would have to load the program into the >>>>> olde timey atari 800 with a cassette loader. Any little bump or >>>>> movement in the load would crash the load and we would have to start >>>>> it again. So basically you had a bunch of kids being very still and >>>>> quiet for ten to twenty minutes, and then >>>>> a flurry of fisticuffs for the wico joystick when the game was ready >>>>> to >>>>> play..lol Man, we used to play blue max, shamus, this very cool game >>>>> called >>>>> age of discovery, and the classic lode runner. I seem to recall >>>>> playing >>>>> monty's revenge as well and this game returns back alot of >>>>> memories... >>>>> One >>>>> question for James. Was any sounds used or recreated from the original >>>>> game? >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, I am going to have to buy a copy for myself and my friend >>>>> from those old days. 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