First of all, it sounds to me like you have a poorly designed system. Good to hear that you are planning on redoing the system in the near future. A good plumbing and heating person should be able to correctly solve your problems.
To answer this one specific question: Yes, you can get a thing called a saddle valve at most any hardware store. It clamps on the pipe and most have a self-piercing valve on them for copper pipe. They are used a lot to hook up an ice maker and such. I normally would not recommend this for a permenant solution to your problem, but it does answer your specific question. Hope this helps. ----- Original Message ----- From: mark To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] removing air from heating system here is the problem it is a single zone system and there is no perging valve as you described there is only a spicket to drain the entire system i have tried opening all the bleeder valves on the cast radiators and had several people sitting there with buckets to catch all the water but no luck i always thought the air would rise to the highest point but it seems like this thought is wrong this is a home i had purchased a few months ago and have been fixing things as i go now the heating season is here and can not figure out this air bound problem can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a self piercing bleeder valve i can hook up to the copper baseboard to enable me to bleed the air this is only going to be a temp. fix because i am changing the heating system in the next few months and will be adding zones when the change is made ----- Original Message ----- From: "rj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] removing air from heating system > Mark, > > What you are describing is a close system. If you look above the pump you > will feel the feed for your water system from the water supply, just > above > that you will feel a 1 1/4 inch shut off valve. Turn it off. just above > the > turn off valve you will see a faucet connected to the same return line. I > don't know how many loops you have in your house, I have three. If I want > to > bleed one of the three zones, I will block the two I don't want to bleed > and > leave the one open I am bleeding the air out of. In my case it is as > simple > as turning down the two thermostats controlling the two zones I don't want > to bleed. Once the zones are blocked and the zone you wish to bleed is > open, > turn on the faucet and force the air out of that zone. > > Hope I made myself clear. Any further questions, please ask. > RJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:24 PM > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] removing air from heating system > > >> hey gang >> new member here >> i have a oil burning system which uses hot water to heat the house >> the problem is the first floor has copper baseboard >> and thesecond has cast iron radiators >> here is the problem the system has air in it and only some of the system > is giving heat the main problem is the copper baseboard has no bleeder > valves or purging valves and the cast iron has the bleeders wich i can get > some air out of how can i >> for the air from down stairs to the second floor so i can get it out the > system has a non adjustable presure valve for feeding the water and will > not > allow no more preasure to be added unless the air is removed any thoughts > thanks mark >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> To listen to the show archives go to link >> http://acbradio.org/handyman.html >> or >> ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ >> >> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. >> http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday >> >> The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. >> http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml >> >> Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > Various List Members At The Following Address: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ >> Visit the new archives page at the following address >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > list just send a blank message to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Yahoo! 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