That black smoke you refer to on a diesel is raw fuel not burned and 
means the person that worked on that engine can't tune worth a crap! 
All the big rigs I have worked on ran at 2100 rpm and the torque was 
given up by there many gear ranges. The most easiest engines I found 
to work on where the Detroit, easy tune and rebuild. As for Cummins 
they where pain in tuning dial indicator.

At 02:13 PM 10/28/2006, you wrote:
>Robert,you wrote
>"offul sounding stink boms you call an engine"  Must times when a diesel is
>running out of time they produce black smoke and stink as you put it.
>The louder sound is caused by the injection of the diesel fuel.  The
>compression is higher in a diesel than a gas engine.  The fuel is injected
>with high pressures.
>I for the most part like your choice of word "superior" HaHaHa.
>You also said "by and large I believe have more torck" yes they do have more
>toque.
>In many diesel applications they run at lower RPMs than a gas engine.
>Over the years I have worked on many gas and diesel engines.  Growing up in
>a family owned small business you work on whatever comes your way.
>Art
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert J. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:19 AM
>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Blown out valve covers
>
>
> > Read to the end for my answers
> >
> > Hello Robert and list readers,
> > Robert you did not mention a year for this Chevy v6 that you were working
> > on.
> > I would assume that it is a vehicle with an electronic fuel pump because
>you
> > wrote "forgot to hook up the fuel lines to the throttle body".  The
>turning
> > on of the key would activate the electronic fuel pump and gas could have
> > probably flowed in to the engine.
> > Now other questions are how much gas might have got inside the engine and
> > did it get on to both heads?  What actually sparked the gas to cause the
> > explosions?  I am guessing that the gas did not ignite in the oil pan
>since
> > you did not mention bending of the oil pan.  So the question is what
>ignited
> > the gas under each valve cover in a relatively close time frame to cause
> > consecutive back fires?
> > Could moving valve train engine parts to cause sparks to ignite the gas?
> > What is the probability of that happening consecutively on opposite sides
>of
> > the engine?
> > Does this particular engine have crank case vents on both valve covers?
>If
> > so, could a out of time spark plug sparked at a time when a valve was open
> > while gas vapors were starting to be sucked through the tubes leading from
> > the valve covers?
> > Why play with gas engines?  See we don't have these kind of problems with
> > diesel engines.  I am only trying to kid you.  I guess you can tell that I
> > am partial to diesel engines.
> >
> > It will be interesting to read any other replies that you get on this one.
> >
> > Art
> > This is a 1989  s10  with a 4.3 v6
> > yes it has an electric fuel pump.
> > Most of the gas went on top of the intake manifold and we mopped that up
>the
> > best we could but I am sure some got into the valve train but probably not
> > much.
> > I am guessing that the spark came through an open valve since at that time
> > we were no where close to having it timed. matter of fact we were 180
> > degrees off and we were out of sequence.
> > there are vent wholes on both valve covers.
> > I know that those offul sounding stink boms you call an engine are far
> > superior in regards to longevity and by and large I believe have more
>torck.
> > but I like my little gas engine that could.
> > Now if I could only get my little 4.3 to grow 2 more cilenders I would
>have
> > the 350 that I would rather have. but oh well  its only an s10.
> > Ha Ha
> >
> > If I open a shop up here I would offer jobs to Art
> > Mickey
> > Larry
> > Lewis
> > and ah umm  who did I miss.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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