Ok,

I was hoping you had a better way than I for rewiring these old houses. I 
thought maybe you had a method of getting new wire into old fixtures which 
did not require removing them, I sure haven't figured a way. Even installing 
new stuff into old plaster & lath sucks and is why I haven't yet installed 
the last of my smoke alarms.


Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R & S Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rewiring a House


> Well Dale I am not sure what you mean by a bayonet fetting.  The one that
> comes to my mind is the two screws that clamp a semi flat piece of steel
> against the back and the two screws are only accessible from outside the
> box.  The fitting then fits into a 1/2 inch knock out and is held in with 
> a
> locknut.  Some times you can snake a slim screwdriver along side the box,
> but not if the screws are away from you.  Last resort pry the box away 
> from
> the stud slightly and saw the nails off with a sawsall,metal cutting 
> jigsaw
> or a hand hacksaw blade and remove the box from the wall.  They can be
> reused by drilling holes in the side of the box next to the stud and
> installing a couple of screws.  Code doesn't reqquire stapling to the stud
> when fishing in voids.
> And as someone said this is nothing but hot dirty nasty work.  By the way 
> if
> it was done correct originally only one lath was totally cut out the one 
> at
> the and bottom was only notched or at least if it was installed after the
> lath.  Of course if the lath was installed after the wire and box anything
> could have been done.  I guess the notched lath was more for a new box 
> being
> installed in an existing lath and plaster wall.  Lots of ways to do things
> and every box may be different in his house.
> Ron
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rewiring a House
>
>
>>I have done a lot of that here, mostly though I was able to open a wall 
>>and
>> recover it with drywall. Cutting plaster & lath is hard to do without
>> making
>> a mess of it and it destroys saws.
>>
>> I would like to know though how you pull cable into an existing box. The
>> old
>> ones usually have a sort of bayonet fitting with a pinch screw 
>> arrangement
>> into the box and are inaccessible from inside the box.
>>
>> Anyway, a lot of it is just damn hard and dirty work and tough on the
>> hands.
>>
>>
>> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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>> Skype DaleLeavens
>> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "R & S Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Rewiring a House
>>
>>
>>> As one person has mentioned the surface raceway is one solution.  Let's
>>> look
>>> at traditional methods.   Some things to consider.  Is there insulation
>>> in
>>> the exterior walls?  Is the attic accessible?  Is this a one story 
>>> house?
>>> Is there a unfinished basement or workable crawl space?  If there is
>>> workable spaces new holes can be drilled and romex ran.  You didn't
>>> mention
>>> is there were metal switch and outlet boxees or are the devices mounted
>>> to
>>> the lath?  Answers to these will allow a better suggestion.
>>> Ron
>>> I remember doing a lot of these old house rewires back in the seventys 
>>> in
>>> the middle of summer.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Milton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:25 PM
>>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Rewiring a House
>>>
>>>
>>>> My house is a old one, Plaster and clap board.
>>>> I have colth wrap wire, when I move it the insulation breaks.
>>>> I was hoping that I could new wire to old and pull it throw the wall? I
>>>> don't think that will work, because the wire is not in a pipe.
>>>> Need suggestion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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