And in fact they often do get zapped particularly around transformers. They 
tend to expire in a rather spectacular arc of flame and frequently take a 
bit of the grid out with them.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Metal Ladders and Electricity Do Not Mix.


> Spiro wrote.
>
>> and how do birds sit on these wires and not get zapped? I've always
>> wondered that.
>
> To get zapped you need to touch both sides of the circuit at the same 
> time.
> Usually the earth and a hot wire is enough to give you a good one.  Birds
> are so small they are only sitting on one wire at a time and they don't 
> feel
> a thing.  Power line workers use the same principle when they stand in 
> their
> insulated bucket trucks and work on the hot wires.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Metal Ladders and Electricity Do Not Mix.
>
>
>> maybe this is narrow minded of me.
>> But my insurance company actually tells me when my roofing waranty is up.
>> Couldn't they at that time, request the customer to show that electrical
>> lines "X" feet from the house are insulated?
>> Is it really dumb, or out-of-line to run 250 ft of 400V insulated, if 
>> that
>> many folks are getting zapped?
>> (is this a helmet law?) or should we just give a hearty "haha goodbye" to
>> folks getting zapped by outdoor wiring?
>> and how do birds sit on these wires and not get zapped? I've always
>> wondered that.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2006, Ray Boyce wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> CPSC warns that consumers can be electrocuted when they use metal 
>>> ladders
>>> near overhead wires. Consumers often use metal ladders near overhead
>>> wires
>>> to
>>> clean gutters, paint structures, trim trees, and repair roofs and
>>> chimneys.
>>>
>>> from electrocution when someone was using a
>>> metal ladder which contacted an electrical wire in or around the home.
>>>
>>> Electrocutions often occur when:
>>>
>>> Consumers move metal ladders which accidentally touch an overhead
>>> electrical
>>> wire near the house or street. Metal ladders conduct electricity, which
>>> can
>>> kill anyone touching the ladder.
>>>
>>> . Metal ladders shift position. Wind , uneven ground or reaching to the
>>> side
>>> while on the ladder can cause the ladder or person to contact an 
>>> overhead
>>> wire.
>>>
>>> . Consumers use metal ladders while handling an improperly grounded 
>>> power
>>> tool or contacting an electrical source, such as a light socket.
>>>
>>> . Metal stepladders and extension ladders meeting Underwriters
>>> Laboratories
>>> and American National Standards Institute voluntary standards have 
>>> labels
>>> warning
>>> about this hazard. The labels typically state with words and graphic:
>>>
>>> Metal Ladder Touching Tree and Roof
>>>
>>> "Danger! Metal conducts electricity! Keep ladder away from power lines
>>> and
>>> live electrical wires."
>>>
>>> Despite these and other warnings, electrocutions still occur each year.
>>> To
>>> avoid this hazard, CPSC advises you to use a ladder, that does not
>>> conduct
>>> electricity,
>>> such as fiberglass or wood, when working near overhead wires.
>>>
>>> If you must use a metal ladder, follow these precautions:
>>>
>>> 1. Carefully check the location of all overhead wires before using a
>>> ladder,
>>> especially where the lines connect to the house. Any powerline 
>>> (including
>>> the
>>> line running from the street to your house) can permit electricity to
>>> flow
>>> into a piece of metal or 3 other object, such as a wet tree branch, that
>>> touches
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Powerlines and phone lines often appear similar. Assume all overhead
>>> wires
>>> carry electricity. Some overhead lines are coated to extend the life of
>>> the
>>> line.
>>> The coating is not intended to protect against electrocution.
>>>
>>> 2. Lower the ladder when carrying or moving it, to avoid touching an
>>> overhead wire. Since long ladders can be unwieldy, have someone help
>>> carry
>>> and set
>>> up the ladder.
>>>
>>> 3. Never work on a windy day a gust of wind can cause the ladder to 
>>> shift
>>> and touch an overhead wire.
>>>
>>> 4. Never place a ladder where it could slide into an overhead line. Make
>>> sure the distance to the nearest overhead line is at least twice the
>>> length
>>> of
>>> the ladder.
>>>
>>> 5. Place the ladder's feet on solid, level ground before climbing it.
>>> When
>>> the ground is not level or is soft, put a flat piece of wood under one 
>>> or
>>> both
>>> feet of the ladder to provide a solid, level base. If possible, tieoff
>>> the
>>> ladder to prevent it from moving.
>>>
>>> 6. If the ladder should start to fall into an overhead line, let it go.
>>> Never try to move it. Do not leave the ladder unattended Have someone
>>> call
>>> the power
>>> company and ask them to cut off electricity to the line, before you move
>>> the
>>> ladder. If someone is holding the ladder when it contacts the overhead
>>> line,
>>> never try to pull them away with your hands. Use something that does not
>>> conduct electricity, such as a long piece of dry wood or rope, to push 
>>> or
>>> pull
>>> them loose.
>>>
>>>
>>
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