Hi Max,

I sure did a lot of work exactly as you are doing.

I generally work to the other side of the blade and now I more often use 
those 'F' clamps, the sort with a fixed jaw at the top and a sliding one 
which runs up and down a bar which you tighten by squeezing handles. They 
can be had with nice firm foam pads which don't usually mark the wood. Makes 
setting the clamps a lot faster and easier too.

That sounds like a very practical router. It is useful these days to have 
both half and quarter inch shaft capability.

I wish I were near enough to help you build a workshop. With a miter saw and 
a circular saw and a square and a couple of good framing hammers we should 
be able to frame up nearly any size building you want in a week, 
weatherproof in two weeks. Would be fun.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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Skype DaleLeavens
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas.


> Hi Dale.
>
> As I noted earlier I started cutting the wood for the radio desk 
> yesterday.
> I've never tackled something this big before so I am learning as I go.  My
> method of cutting straight lines works very well.  First I figured out how
> far the blade is from the edge of the bottom plate, not sure what to call
> it,  of the hand saw.  I did that by clamping a piece of finished shelving
> material to the sheet of ply wood in a place where the edge will be scrap.
> I made a little cut and measured.  It happens to be 3 and 31/32 inches. 
> So
> now all I have to do is clamp the shelving to the ply wood that distance
> from where I make the cut.  I use scraps of the same shelving on the other
> side to prevent clamp marks on the good wood.  I'm using burch plywood.  I
> use finished shelving because it is straight and very smooth and the saw
> won't catch on any part of it.  I have the sides and 3 shelves cut.  One
> more.  The top shelf and main table top are to go.  Wish me luck, so far 
> so
> good.  I just opened the router and it didn't come with a starter bit.  It
> is a 2 and 1/4 horse power variable speed with collets, I think that's 
> what
> they are called, for 1/2 and 1/4 inch bits.  I don't think I will ever 
> have
> a table saw and other fixed in place shop equipment,  No room for them.  I
> would have to have another building put up.  Sue and I built the storage
> shed for our riding mower but we couldn't do that now.  Old age is 
> catching
> up with us you know.  Right now I move the mowers and wheel barrel out of
> the shed and work in it.    Who knows I may be singing a different tune a
> year from now.  I just might save up my pennies and have a workshop built.
> There's no lack of space for it, we have a big lot.  We are in the county 
> so
> not much in the way of building codes to contend with.  This is a
> libertarian, agricultural area.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dale Leavens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 8:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas.
>
>
>> Hi Max,
>>
>> You will find a router to be a very useful and quite versatile 
>> woodworking
>> tool. There are many who believe it to be the superior way to cut dados,
>> certainly they can do a very good job, particularly cutting blind dados
>> and
>> sliding dovetails. I am not sure I always agree, I really like a dado
>> blade
>> in my table saw for a lot of that work too, the table is larger and the
>> rip
>> fence makes set-up very quick but a router forms a perfectly flat 
>> bottomed
>> groove although there are those who claim the double groove at each edge
>> of
>> a properly dado blade cut provides some space for the glue.
>>
>> If ever I have a problem with cutting dados with a router it is only in
>> keeping it tracking absolutely straight. There are many ways of
>> accomplishing that, the most important is moving in the direction of the
>> cutter. When cutting a dado one side of the cutter is moving against the
>> direction of the cut while the other edge is moving in the other
>> direction.
>> The point is that you are pushing the cutter against the direction of the
>> cut so it tends not to pull the router along and therefor out of control.
>>
>> I prefer to use guide bushings inserted into the router base just because
>> it
>> is easier to get the cut positioned. The collar is like a short tube
>> projecting below the baseplate through which your bit protrudes. If you
>> are
>> cutting a three quarter dado you fit a collar a little better than three
>> quarters inside diameter the outside diameter will probably be 14 16ths 
>> so
>> you can clamp a straight piece of quarter inch or half inch plywood 
>> within
>> a
>> sixteenth of an inch from the true location of the dado and set the 
>> router
>> on that guide and follow the edge with the collar.
>>
>> The other way to do it is to include the width of the router base divided
>> by
>> two and minus half the diameter of the bit and clamp your straight edge
>> there. I have done this many times too but getting the location exact can
>> be
>> a little frustrating. For example, if the dado is to be 3 quarters of an
>> inch and the router base is 7 inches in diameter then you will offset the
>> straight edge guide half the diameter of the base = 3.5 inches minus half
>> the diameter of the router bit which is 3 8ths so you will place the
>> straight edge three and one eighth inches from the desired edge of the
>> dado.
>> If you want a stopped dado say three quarters from the edge of your board
>> that all gets a lot harder but much easier using a collar.
>>
>> I have made up templates for cutting the stringers for stairs and cut 
>> them
>> with a router.
>> This is the only way to go in my view.
>>
>> If you will be doing any amount of wood working you will also soon want a
>> router table.
>>
>> I now have three routers, a monster plunge router from Australia, a
>> 'D'-handled one from sears and a nice little porter-Cab;e. They all have
>> their strengths and weaknesses. Just now the sears is mounted in a router
>> table and I had to remove a handle to get it there, it isn't my favorite.
>> I
>> really like the little Porter-Cable it seems to take all my collars and
>> such
>> but requires two wrenches to remove the bits and the switch is a toggle
>> switch, not ideal.
>>
>> The big Triton is a variable speed with two position plunge but, as it
>> stands I don't see how to instal collars, it is big and heavy and the
>> switch, though very safe is difficult to manipulate. It is behind a
>> sliding
>> door, you slide the door then press the rocker switch with your thumb.
>> when
>> you press it off the door springs over it so you cannot accidentally turn
>> it
>> on but believe me, deliberately turning it on is something of a
>> production.
>> It does come with a very nice combination circle guide and a fence out to
>> about 7 inches which is easily attached and removed and wonderful for
>> cutting dados out to that distance. It is a pretty expensive router and
>> very
>> powerful.
>>
>> I would like a really small one for trimming and such and maybe a small
>> plunge router but I can't imagine Janet allowing me five or six of them. 
>> I
>> have destroyed a cheap Black & Decker router and a rather valuable Sears
>> electronic variable speed router over the past 25 years or so.
>>
>> Yesterday I began cutting plywood in preparation for building a router
>> table
>> of more decent size. I began recording bits of the process however the
>> recorder I have isn't doing a wonderful job, I have another better one 
>> and
>> will get some batteries for it today and maybe a cheap separate mike. I
>> sent
>> the last mike I had to my daughter for her Skype. As I began cutting up
>> the
>> plywood I discovered it to be warped, maybe because it has been standing
>> in
>> my shed too long, I will probably use a router to cut the dados in that
>> because it will sit flatter on the panels than I will get with my table
>> saw,
>> the saw though will permit much more rapid set-up.
>>
>> Do have fun with your new router and if I can be of any help just let me
>> know.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Skype DaleLeavens
>> Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Max Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Blind Handyman" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 12:26 AM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] A router for Christmas.
>>
>>
>>> Hi all.  Sue gave me a Ridgid router for Christmas. I used the article
>>> about
>>> routers to pick it out but now I would like some hints, dos and don'ts 
>>> of
>>> using it.  The radio desk has been started.  I intend to use the router
>>> to
>>> make the dados.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>>>
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