I am on my second talking tape measure.  The first one literally took a hit.  
That is I dropped it off the third story roof onto a concrete sidewalk.  
Although it survived in one piece, it no longer would talk.  I packaged it up 
and sent it back across the pond to the place  I purchased it asking them to 
repair it if possible.  A few days later I got a brand new one back and to my 
amazement there was no charge!

In my opinion they are  battery hogs.  I find that when the battery gets low 
they also act flaky, stuttering or some times just keep talking nonsense even 
when the tape is fully retracted. Having said this, I have found that replacing 
the battery has always resolved  this problem.

Like you, I have also heard others talking about issues they have with them but 
I can honestly say I have had no other problems and if mine quits working, I 
would buy another. 

P.S.  I can't tell you for certain, how long I have had mine,  but I guess it 
has been at least 5 years or so.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Stansifer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 20:07
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Loft


  Well said my friend...
  The project is going to be inside my shop on my property
  behind my 6 foot chainlink fence that is topped off with my
  barbed wire and unless we now have wood police in my little
  corner of paradise I will probably be ok.
  We don't get frost within 200 miles of where I am however, I
  will probably consult my engineer friend on that part of it
  because I damn sure don't want my project to come down
  around my ears.
  What is your take on these talking tape measures? I have
  heard both good and bad about them. 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NLG
  Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 6:20 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Loft

  First of all, if this project has to be inspected, it
  matters not what I, you or anyone else on this list
  suggests. The only thing you can do is go by what the
  government appointed inspector tells you what has to be. In
  most cases, this little piss head is some recently college
  grad that knows absolutely nothing about the real world and
  goes only by what he read in a book, written by another piss
  head that never hammered a nail, let alone built anything.

  That being said: If you can do this without inspections,
  your plan should work.

  A couple of observations/suggestions I have for you are:
  Instead of using a 4 inch by 24 foot ledger bolted to the
  outside wall, you would be better off building this out of 2
  inch by 8 inch what ever it takes to span the 24 foot,
  bolting it securely to the wall, then putting another layer
  of 2 bys on top of it, staggering the seems to complete the
  ledger. (the less distance the bolts stick out from the
  block wall the better).

  I also would go with 16 inch centers on the joysts, giving
  you more stability and load capacity, (you never know what
  you might store up there) if you are like me.

  For the beam, I would also build it out of 2inch by 8 inch
  , staggering the seems. This should be strong enough to skin
  a deer on, but I wouldn't want to pull an engine on it.

  For the supports, I would use 3 inch pipe with a flange on
  it to place beneath the beam. and I surely wouldn't dig down
  4 feet. Being inside the garage, there should be no frost,
  so I would only go down a couple of feet and cement them in.

  Good luck! :)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Stansifer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 14:06
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Loft

  Hi Guys,

  Well you all have almost inspired me enough to attempt an
  8x24 storage loft over one end of my shop.
  I am thinking 4x8 boards 24 feet long bolted through the
  outside block wall and another 24 foot long 4x8 bolted to
  4"
  diameter support poles. The bottom of the floor would be 8
  feet off of the shop floor. My plan is to cut through the
  concrete floor dig down about 4 feet and cement in the
  support poles. with the poles at 6foot intervals. 
  I would install joist hangers every 2feet giving me 24"
  centers, using 2x6 joists to support 3/4 plywood flooring.

  Does this basic layout sound feasible?

  Do I need to double up the joists in the middle?

  What if any special tools will I need?
  I own a couple of cordless and air powered drills,
  wrenches,
  a saws-all and a second hand circ saw that isn't worth
  much.I also have a chop saw that I can put a wood blade in
  if needs be.
  I have read a lot of comments regarding the talking tape
  measure both good and bad. Do I need one or is their an
  alternative?
  Let me know what you guys think. I do have a friend who is
  a
  structural engineer and he told me he would be happy to
  look
  it over before I spend any money.

  Regards

  Larry Stansifer

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