I might as well post this under this subject line.  For those new to the 
list I bought a shell building to be used as a shop.  It gets up to about 
110 degrees in there in the day time so I need to insulate and air condition 
it.  There aren't any joist to hang a ceiling on.  The stringers go up from 
the top plate in the wall frame.  About half way up there is a horizontal 
member that is fastened to the stringer on each end by gusset plates.  I 
bought enough 2 by 4s to do the job and today I installed them.  Actually, 
yesterday I cut a little off each one, and mitered the ends,  so I could get 
them into place.  All I had to do was lift each one into place where it 
rested on the top plates at each end.  Then I fastened it to the stringer 
with wood screws.  I may never use nails again.  I used star drive screws. 
When you are buying wood screws get star or square drive.  Don't mess with 
Philips or straight slot.

P S.  As I reread this I see a double meaning in star drive.  Those screws 
will easily make warp 11.  Grin.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Fasteners


> Larry,
>
> I'm no carpenter or contractor, but I was under the impression that pretty
> much everyone uses nails to attach joists and joist hangars.  All the
> force on the joist is supposed to be down and not out.  If there is a load
> pulling the joist out of the ledger, then there is something wrong with
> the design.
>
> For my deck project I am planning on using twisted shank nails to attach
> the hangars to the ledger and the joists.
>
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> Dan Rossi
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